Transformers One Spoiler Discussion

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Randy
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Didn't see a thread or sub forum for this.

Was able to see this last night with some friends at the fan event. They were giving out character posters and keychains.

Very enjoyable movie with good performances. Cybertron and the main characters had great designs.

Very much a MCU level of action and humor applied to Transformers. Last 15 minutes or so were the best with some surprises.

Glad to see Skywarp was credited with his speaking line.
 

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Rhinox

too old for this
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I loved the movie. Half the fun for me was pointing out who was whom amongst all the miner bots.
Have we ever had Transformers fiction where Sentinel Prime was given some characterization and he wasn't an absolute dick?
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
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Have we ever had Transformers fiction where Sentinel Prime was given some characterization and he wasn't an absolute dick?
In Marvel G1 he's just some guy giving Optimus the Matrix in a flashback.
In Sunbow G1 he defeats Trannis but then later gets killed by Megs and passes the Matrix to Alpha Trion before he dies.
Neither G1 take gives much info.

In DW he's described as a good peacetime leader who was unsuited for war and got beaten to death when his big plan to end the fighting was to try and talk things out with Megatron.

In IDW2 he's shown a bullheaded leader but generally good guy who not only sheltered an organic race on Cybertron from their enemies who wanted to genocide them but also tried to reason with Megatron saying that Megatron and Deceptions' path would only lead to endless war across the cosmos.

In IDW1 Megatron Origins depicted him as generally fed up with the corrupt and elitist Senate and was proven right about Megatron but then IDW1 later revealed he was fascist all along. The key thing there is that Megatron Origins and later flashbacks that featured Sentinel happened YEARS apart and in between them Transformers Animated and DotM both happened, which depicted Sentinel as a jerk.
So I'm guessing that influenced IDW1 into retconning their version of him to make him nastier.
 

Haywire

Collecter of Gobots and Godzilla
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Got to see it with my family and my son's best friend, and it was pretty enjoyable for everyone (including my wife, who usually tolerates, often enables, but is not a Fan of Transformers). We saw it in our local theater, and the big screen was nice, but it was hard to pick out details in a lot of scenes, because it was so fast paced. (I saw Blurr listed on the leaderboard during the race, but never picked him out in the race itself...) This will be a movie that will be fun to rewatch with a pause button.

Cybertron and the cyberfauna were cool. (Was it cyberflora, or actually regular plant life? Dialog seemed to indicate the latter...) The Quntessons were...different. I don't dislike this take on them.

D-16's turn to Megatron, while abrupt, does make sense throughout the story. Dude Idolizes Sentinel, when he finds out that Sentinel has lied this whole time, removed the t-cogs from all the miners to maintain their "lower-class" status, and made deals with the Quintessons to maintain his position of privilege, one of his first lines is "I want to kill him". His rage and feelings of betrayal only intensify from then on, as he is hunted by Sentinel's troops, captured, humiliated and even tortured by the Bot he once thought a hero. When Orion tries to stop him, he let's that rage consume him beyond the point of reason.

I don't think the t-cogs imbue any special abilities, per se. It seems like, when a Cybertronian gets a new t-cog, it triggers a transformation of their body at that point; its possible Megatron realized he could control this somewhat to give himself an upgrade when he ripped Megatronus' Cog from Sentinel.
 

Darth_Prime

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Just got home from the movie and have not read any of of the reviews on here yet. All I saw going into it was that it was "Certified Fresh" and there was an end credit scene.

Overall: I think this move was perfect.

I thought the story was paced well and had a good start and finish with PLENTY of room in other movies / shows to introduce characters that were left out. I liked seeing names on the chart during the Iacon race and trying to pick faces out in the crowds. Was there a Dion colored truck in the race? I thought it might have been a tease of Magnus.

Loved the twist with Sentinel Prime, but kinda saw it coming. He was too perfect of a leader for there not to be some kind of corruption involved. Plus, Arachnid as his right hand bot brought on more doubt.

Shockwave...I don't like him just being a lacky. Hopefully we can get more of the scientist and chess player he has been in the comics. What did Elita call him, blinky? Hilarious whatever the name was.

Still not a fan of Bumblebee and the Badassatron thing. I personally didn't like that part from the aspect of a parent bringing my kids to see the movie. But to be fair, they have heard worse from me. Not to mention the OG film dropping a few words.

I loved not having a human element with a silly love story sprinkled in.

Hoping in the next film / show they slowly introduce more characters, maybe 4 - 6 on each side of named, main characters while still sprinkling in the others as background characters like they did in this. Loved seeing the coneheads.

After seeing how many characters were in the show, and even Jazz being kind of a prominent 2nd tier character, the toy line is not bigger upon release than what it is. Starscream and recolors / retools of other seekers. Jazz, Wheeljack, Sideswipe, Shockwave, Soundwave, Arachnid. Unless some have been announced and I missed it, Im going off more of what I have seen on the shelf.

Cant wait to see where this series goes. Lots of potential for a bright future with it.
 

Undead Scottsman

Well-known member
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Given how the other characters react, they find the Badassitron stuff cringy as well, which falls back to something I figured out awhile ago "You can make a character annoying (or in this case cringey) on purpose for story reasons, but at the end of the day, they're still going to be annoying (or cringey)"
 

ZacWilliam1

Well-known member
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I thought the joke was fine. It was mediocre the first time, yes, but obeyed the rule "repetition equals humor" and got funnier in subsequent uses. When he bellows it like a crazed war-cry in his first real battle it was actually quite funny.

-ZacWilliam, it seemed very in character for this BB who was more Animated Bumblebee than G1 Bumblebee.
 

Darth_Prime

Well-known member
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I’m kinda hoping we see some growth from Bee in the second movie. Like now that’s he’s not on sub level 50 or whatever he’s kinda normalized out a bit.

I did like the line of Elita telling Orion he doesn’t have the touch or the power. There was another part in the last 1/4 of the movie I got a good laugh out of as well but I forgot the joke. *edit* I remeber now. When she called somebody a Go-Bot. 😂😂😂

The Starscream voice thing was funny when Sentinal called him out on it. I also really enjoyed Steve Buscemi in that roll.

I really enjoyed Megatron getting Megatronus’ cog. I thought it odd in the cave that he didn’t get that one, I liked the payoff later in the movie.

I wonder how much cogs from the 13 will be a thing going forward with how easy they are to swap. Example: a bot named Dion comes up through the ranks as the war breaks out and proves his leadership and courage, does he get Nova Prime’s cog for an upgrade / promotion and become Ultra Magnus?
 

Dake

Well-known member
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I enjoyed it. The voice acting was good, the designs were cool updates, and the plot was simple but mostly coherent. Honestly, my only complaint was D-16 aka Megatron's turn was pretty quick. Admittedly, they decided they had to go from "Anakin to Vader" in 104 minutes, and they did it about as well as could be managed, but it still seemed fairly abrupt - especially when the film's total runtime seems to be almost "real" time in-story.

I will say a slight warning for any younger viewers, the final turn is surprisingly violent considering the rest of the film's more general mayhem.

That being said. it felt like the best Transformers film since Bumblebee (probably better to me because it's actually about Transformers, not humans that happen to be around Tfs). I definitely look forward to an art book or something so we can see all the different designs.
 
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ZacWilliam1

Well-known member
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Honestly I thought they did it a sight better than Anakin to Vader. One of my main problems with RotS was that the Fall never really felt right to me. Where as in this film the arc is stronger imo. The last step where he lets Orion fall is probably just a hair too abrupt, I'll agree, but on the whole the character change works for me more than Vaders did in Sith.

-ZacWilliam, all in all the characterization of D was something that really worked for me here.
 

Steevy Maximus

Well known pompous pontificator
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I will say that I couldn’t NOT roll my eyes at Orion dying, AGAIN, and get “reborn” as Optimus Prime.

But that’s probably a me, as a long time fan, issue than for most audiences. But, damn, if I’m not tired of Jesus allegory with Prime.

But in the normal thread, I detailed some of my complaints, which, in a broad sense, is my nerdy nitpickery.

Still a solid 8/9 out of 10.
 

Steevy Maximus

Well known pompous pontificator
Citizen
That being said. it felt like the best Transformers film since Bumblebee (probably better to me because it's actually about Transformers, not humans that happen to be around Tfs). I definitely look forward to an art book or something so we can see all the different designs.
Hasbro has YEARS of Studio Series fodder with this film, between remixing SS BBM Soundwave and Shockwave, to the endless recolors of Starscream (and a conehead retool), to all the Autobots who got ”Cogged” at the end (I want a new Jazz!)
 


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