Transformers: Rise of the Beasts
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I'll spoil it for ya:
And when you realize they just dumped all "plot threads" after Last Knight
Too much Energon on the planet, they had to remain in beast mode.
That's, uh, kind of a spoiler.
In this movie's case, however, raw energon is inert and harmless, rather than being uber-radioactive and volatile like how it was in Beast Wars.
This is correct. It would've been roughly two years old at this point, give or take.
My wife and I brought that up, too; she figured maybe most audiences today wouldn't know Wario as a straight-up big boss villain, rather than the greedy protag/anti-hero he's tended to be cast as since.
Be cool if there was another version on home media
Extra scenes with dialogue explaining the Maximals are the last of the Transformers from the future who fled Unicrons wrath and created a life on a distant world.
That Unicron is the same from The Last Knight which emerged from Earth in the process, destroyed the human race and Cybertron and enslaved both Autobots and Decepticons into Terrorcons.
That Scourge is the Bayverse Optimus Prime twisted into that form and some more interactions between the Terrorcons, they were lacking in that area.
If not some supplementary material giving the Autobots, Maximals and Terrorcons some backstory wouldn't go amiss like a comic, motion comic, or short or something.
It's not that the film is bad, it just has all the right ingredients yet lacks something.
That Unicron is the same from The Last Knight which emerged from Earth in the process, destroyed the human race and Cybertron and enslaved both Autobots and Decepticons into Terrorcons.
That Scourge is the Bayverse Optimus Prime twisted into that form and some more interactions between the Terrorcons, they were lacking in that area.
If not some supplementary material giving the Autobots, Maximals and Terrorcons some backstory wouldn't go amiss like a comic, motion comic, or short or something.
It's not that the film is bad, it just has all the right ingredients yet lacks something.
Fascinating, and a fitting end for the Bayverse, if ever there was one. Although it doesn't explain why Unicron was starting to eat Earth, if Earth is indeed his own past self.
And let's be honest, it's not that far a throw from Bayverse's Optimus "Give Me Your Face!" Prime to Scourge, except perhaps that Scourge seems more intelligent and a tad less bloodthirsty. That backstory for Scourge would kind give his comment to Optimus during their first encounter a little more depth:
"I enjoy that look of confusion. When an inferior being meets a higher power."
That said, I"ll be just as happy if no future film ever references the Bayverse movies again. Rather than trying to create a hole in this new trilogy that would somehow fit that cesspool of a continuity in like a mutated puzzle piece, something simpler would be preferable. Given the wasteful, seemingly endless war between Autobots and Decepticons, it's entirely believable that they'd eventually destroy Cybertron in the future all on their own, or weaken it to the point where it's easy pickings for Unicron. A small group of survivors could have discovered the Transwarp Key in Cybertron's final days and fled to a distant galaxy, ultimately adopting a pacifist philosophy and evolving into the Maximals.
In the sequel, perhaps we could discover that another group of survivors also escaped, but without the benefit of the Transwarp Key had to scrape and struggle along until they were distant enough to be safe from Unicron. These could be the Predacons.
And let's be honest, it's not that far a throw from Bayverse's Optimus "Give Me Your Face!" Prime to Scourge, except perhaps that Scourge seems more intelligent and a tad less bloodthirsty. That backstory for Scourge would kind give his comment to Optimus during their first encounter a little more depth:
"I enjoy that look of confusion. When an inferior being meets a higher power."
That said, I"ll be just as happy if no future film ever references the Bayverse movies again. Rather than trying to create a hole in this new trilogy that would somehow fit that cesspool of a continuity in like a mutated puzzle piece, something simpler would be preferable. Given the wasteful, seemingly endless war between Autobots and Decepticons, it's entirely believable that they'd eventually destroy Cybertron in the future all on their own, or weaken it to the point where it's easy pickings for Unicron. A small group of survivors could have discovered the Transwarp Key in Cybertron's final days and fled to a distant galaxy, ultimately adopting a pacifist philosophy and evolving into the Maximals.
In the sequel, perhaps we could discover that another group of survivors also escaped, but without the benefit of the Transwarp Key had to scrape and struggle along until they were distant enough to be safe from Unicron. These could be the Predacons.
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tbh it's more like they dropped the bayverse as a whole.
that is not a bad thing.
Perhaps consuming his past self wouldn't kill himself, but would instead result in a fusion between the two, creating a more powerful version of Unicron.
Not quite. The movie had numerous little moments that certainly felt like they were meant to remind the audience of things from the Bay movies.
They could explain that by upping the stakes from Unicron is Earth to Unicron is the universe for the next film by saying he battled Primus 'before time began' and his destruction led to the creation of the universe, his parts were scattered by the expansion and he's trying to piece himself together again.[/spoilers]
Ugh, can we not with the “Scourge is Bayverse Prime” anymore? It was a random-ass fan theory that was summarily disproven by the movie. I’m not putting this in spoilers tags because I’m not saying what happened, I’m saying what didn’t happen that was just a random thing someone said somewhere that has absolutely no canon nor authorial intent in relation to it whatsoever.
Because Scourge is actually…
Anyway. That being said…
Can we PLEASE talk about:
Because Scourge is actually…
Ultron!!
Anyway. That being said…
Can we PLEASE talk about:
- Apelinq!
- What the eff type of Transformer is Mirage in that he can shed excess body mass when injured and go into stasis lock like that WHILE combin with a human!!?
- Goddamnit they did my girl Airazor dirty. 
. But… do y’all think that Energon surge would have revived her too? It did Bee, and he was long dead at that point. And Bee was just as “Scourge-touched” as she was.
. But… do y’all think that Energon surge would have revived her too? It did Bee, and he was long dead at that point. And Bee was just as “Scourge-touched” as she was.G.I. JOE! Who got faked out and thought it was Sector 7?
They did my girl Nightbird dirty too. She barely had any personality or speaking time.
Rhinox also didn’t have a speaking role even though he had a voice actor listed.🫤
If I hadn't already been spoiled on that bit and knew who it was going in, I probably would have suspected it was Sector Seven instead, since the Bumblebee movie set up the beginning of their investigative/suspicious relationship with the Transformers.
This was a good movie. Everything made sense, no random meanderings or out of place wonkiness, several character arcs and lots of emotional pay off.
It was a movie with a singular vision that despite the characters and concepts involved, was surprisingly focused.
I liked it.
There were some lore bits I wish we would have doven in to a *little* more, but that's me being greedy. Overall it was a great solid blockbuster. I'll probably be seeing it again.
It was a movie with a singular vision that despite the characters and concepts involved, was surprisingly focused.
I liked it.
There were some lore bits I wish we would have doven in to a *little* more, but that's me being greedy. Overall it was a great solid blockbuster. I'll probably be seeing it again.
BOM is estimating around $60.5 million opening weekend. Though I’m not sure if that counts the additional 12-ish it garnered through Thursday screenings, which would land it a VERY solid $70 million or so opening.
If word of mouth is strong, I could see a $150-200 million domestic haul, despite the HEAVY competition.
If word of mouth is strong, I could see a $150-200 million domestic haul, despite the HEAVY competition.
It would seem that "Burning Plasma Cheetor" might also be available at Amazon Japan, with purchases of the "not quite MP ROTB Optimus Primal". This was also (kind of) sliced to at the Takara Tomy Mall site (but links there didn't really show Cheetor as included). As also shown in photos above/on previous pages, Cheetor might also be available in Toys R Us, etc for those that spend ¥5,000 or more on ROTB toys.
I think Amazon Japan ships internationally though?
Here's the link:
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B0C73KFKLS/ref=zg_bsnr_3307840051_sccl_1/356-8290886-7165231?psc=1
I think Amazon Japan ships internationally though?
Here's the link:
- https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B0C73KFKLS/ref=zg_bsnr_3307840051_sccl_1/356-8290886-7165231?psc=1
I watched Rise of the Beasties for a second time and, you're right! They didn't include that scene in the movie, after the fight.
It wasn't Primal who first appeared. It was the other guy. But, c'mon, anybody watching it for the first time would assume the first one seen was Primal. Easy mistake.
Something I heard the first time but forgot until I heard it again was the kid Chris on the walkietalkie whatever called Mirage as Knuckles. Noah Sonic, Chris Tails and Mirage Knuckles, haha
I figure Noah would call himself Airwave when he comes back, perhaps cuz of his tech skills, in communication (he was, uh, breaking into a cable unit whatever) but it's really just him and Chris saying 'Don't use real names on the airwave' or something. But Airwave's name is Cliff Mewlett, not Noah Diaz.
Just got back (and caught up with the thread).
Easily my second-favourite TF movie. Far too much of the magical cartoon logic that Bay introduced, but even Bumblebee couldn't get away from that, so I guess we're stuck with it until someone does a full franchise reboot.
Plus being rebuilt from scraps of an ordinary car, and the whole reformat-on-the-fly thing that Bay introduced and which obliviates the entire point of transforming.
Easily my second-favourite TF movie. Far too much of the magical cartoon logic that Bay introduced, but even Bumblebee couldn't get away from that, so I guess we're stuck with it until someone does a full franchise reboot.
Exactly.
Plus being rebuilt from scraps of an ordinary car, and the whole reformat-on-the-fly thing that Bay introduced and which obliviates the entire point of transforming.
So, just like G1!
I saw RotB yesterday and enjoyed it quite a bit. Of course, I was going into it not expecting too much, and I had a good time. There are a few things that I would like to have seen done / handled better, but for the most part, it did not disappoint. Crucially, too, it featured a lot of screen time for the Transformers themselves, which is what I wanted. They weren't relegated to background characters in their own film, so that is a win for me!