Transformers: Rise of the Beasts

Steevy Maximus

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For us. They are there for us.....
Jokes aside, a LOT of this stuff was probably developed last year and then shelved upon the delay.

From the sources I’ve seen (and seem accurate), the film was supposed to have Decepticons and Predacons in play:
Transit (whose battle with Prime got cut) was clearly a Decepticon, and Unicron’s cannon fodder were referred to as Predacons (hence why Scorponok retains that faction labeling in the toy line).

Somebody along the line probably deemed having 5 factions a bit too many, so Transit and the Decepticon cameos got dumped, and all of Unicron’s minions (be it his elite agents or cannon fodder) were just lumped into being Terrorcons.
 

Steevy Maximus

Well known pompous pontificator
Citizen
Marcelo Matere posted some concept art for his work on the Beast Combiners Optimus Primal/Skullcruncher and Bumblebee/Snarlsaber

It feels a bit sad that such awesome design work got “costed down” to what we ended up getting. I would STILL love to get that Optimus Primal design as a normal, functioning, figure. He’d jive well with the Cheetor concept Deluxe figure we got.
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
Jokes aside, a LOT of this stuff was probably developed last year and then shelved upon the delay.

From the sources I’ve seen (and seem accurate), the film was supposed to have Decepticons and Predacons in play:
Transit (whose battle with Prime got cut) was clearly a Decepticon, and Unicron’s cannon fodder were referred to as Predacons (hence why Scorponok retains that faction labeling in the toy line).

Somebody along the line probably deemed having 5 factions a bit too many, so Transit and the Decepticon cameos got dumped, and all of Unicron’s minions (be it his elite agents or cannon fodder) were just lumped into being Terrorcons.
IIRC, one of the earliest character descriptions for Nightbird described her as having originally been a Decepticon before she joined up with the Terrorcons and became one of them.
 
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PrimalxConvoy

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Perhaps "Takara Arts" wasn't a wise choice...

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Perhaps they could do a "Slag" card and complete the circle? ;)
 

Axaday

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The movie didn't come to my local theater opening week and I didn't feel like driving further, so I thought I'd just be catching it in a few months and I wasn't too fussed because I haven't been a big fan of the movies.

But it turned up this week and I went and I liked it quite a bit. Human characters that I liked and felt real. Well handled robots that a general audience will be able to recognize during the movie.

The only gripe I can think of at the moment is that the Mexican Wheeljack was a waste of time. A cringey ethnic joke that winds up having no other purpose?
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

Broke the Matrix
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Was just thinking of that.
I was looking for the time Venus was disguised as Moon and called their enemy a "tacky tart," but sadly, I couldn't find it. My wife couldn't believe it when she heard that.

Buuuut, I did get reminded that wasn't the only time they used the word in the show, so...
 

Axaday

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I think I was better at enjoying this movie partly because I have gotten used to the way they are going to take TF concepts into a blender and see what comes out. But I feel like it was tastefully done.

I couldn't really remember why they were stranded on Earth at the start. I remember a Cybertron scene on Bumblebee, but I don't remember what happened. I will go look.
 

Cybersnark

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There's definitely a missing story between the end of Bumblebee (where we see a group of Autobots arriving on Earth to regroup, with Prime feeling optimistic and confident) and the start of this one (a smaller group of Autobots are stranded on Earth a decade later wth a miserable beaten-down Prime), but it's not a continuity-breaking twist.

Hell, in another franchise I'd say it's the perfect invitation for a novel, comic, or even a cartoon series.
 

Axaday

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Citizen
I felt like the light hints about who the Beasts were was a little too light and evasive.
 

abates

unfortunate shark issues
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One bit of dialogue I recall from the movie which mildly confused me was when Airazor reunites with the other Maximals, Primal asks her about the "others" and she responds that they're all gone. Which suggests that Airazor had her own group of Maximals she commanded, but Primal's group at the start of the film is just the four of them.

I'm wondering if that was leftover dialogue from a rewrite, or I'm reading too much into it and it's just there to suggest events happened.
 

Axaday

Well-known member
Citizen
One bit of dialogue I recall from the movie which mildly confused me was when Airazor reunites with the other Maximals, Primal asks her about the "others" and she responds that they're all gone. Which suggests that Airazor had her own group of Maximals she commanded, but Primal's group at the start of the film is just the four of them.

I'm wondering if that was leftover dialogue from a rewrite, or I'm reading too much into it and it's just there to suggest events happened.
I think it is just an expensive CGI trick. The made models for those four and featured them at the start and again at the end. But they hurried off to get in a spaceship and others rendezvous along the way, off screen. They got everyone out that they could. But no need to build expensive CGI models if they also happened to die offscreen.
 

Steevy Maximus

Well known pompous pontificator
Citizen
Toy news!
Amazon has Weaponizer Wheeljack with Rhinox up for preorder, with a release date of August 1. Weaponizer Arcee is listed as AVAILABLE…if you order from the Amazon Global UK storefront (at double the price). Combiners Optimus Prime was spotted in Peru, meaning the figure is likely in the distribution system and will probably start appearing by the end of summer.
 

Superomegaprime

Wondering bot
Citizen
Hollywood really needed a good kick in the pants.

Its the big studios who deserve the kick, they got extremely cocky and arrogant and lost sight of the fact they are meant to be businesses, running to make money and please their customers, not political mouth pieces for some ilrevent agenda, the worse one is Disney and now they are reaping exactly what they have sown, with a string of flops or barely break even movies, people aren't going to the parks as much as the prices gone up and up, I also hear they are looking rather tried and dirty, some of them, but they feel like a company that got no direction and they cannot buy their way out of this ruct as there is nothing to buy and they lost their creative sparks and talent because of their stupidy, so they getting exactly what they deserve!

Anyway, back to the main topic, retaining 5th place, is pretty good, so there is clearly a strong word of mouth for the film, while the Flash falls down the chart, I guess that shows that banking on a older Batman actor alone didn't help, but then I hear its a mess of a movie, thou I think it was unwise to go with the Flashpoint story line as the Flash's first solo live action movie, so with Rise of the Beasts, I honestly expect it will do well when it comes onto Home Media if it can retain a good word of mouth and maybe then, see a sequel of some kind, thou I do feel that this film could of really setup a bit better for a potential sequel, but then, it does feel like, there is some stuff missing from the story, such as how the Autobots planned to get off Earth, but then exactly how were the Terrorcons going to get off Earth when Unicron was consuming it?
 


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