Transformers: Rise of the Beasts

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
About the only real shining point to me are the accessories. The Transwarp Key is nicely done (with splitting feature), and the chains are a novel addition to the weapon system and has enormous potential in use in other figures (as seen with the Battletrap image). The ax is nicely sculpted, but suffers being cast from the same off grey the figure is (the Optimus holding pic really illustrates how that doesn’t work).
Yeah, it's been confirmed that these chain and axe accessories are indeed intended for Battletrap and Optimus Prime, respectively, essentially making this Optimus Primal toy a stealth accessory pack release.
 

Superomegaprime

Wondering bot
Citizen
Yeah, it's been confirmed that these chain and axe accessories are indeed intended for Battletrap and Optimus Prime, respectively, essentially making this Optimus Primal toy a stealth accessory pack release.

There's a clip in one of the movie teasers where Primal had a chain between his two swords, sure the intent for them is to go with other figures but it would be cool to have seen Primal swing one sword in the air via the chain
 

PrimalxConvoy

NOT a New Member.
Citizen

Mat-Man

Member
Citizen
Not sure if this is the place or if it's been spotted yet, but I came across Titan Changer ROTB Megs at my local Walmart today

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And the UPC if anyone wants/needs it

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Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
Yeah, that's been on the shelves for a while now.
 

PrimalxConvoy

NOT a New Member.
Citizen
I'm not sure if this was covered before but my local Ito Yokado shop has raffle-style tickets to "win" various cutouts and other ROTB related tat for around ¥700 a pop.

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LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
As unpopular as this take may be, I think this movie suffered from the Maximals being included.

A lot of the excess Bay-ness is gone, and I understand you need a human plot. And there seemed to be a pretty good mix of human stuff and Cybertronian stuff when it was just the human characters, Autobots, and Terrorcons.
But once you add in Wheeljack, and the Maximals... it's rough. Cheetor only has one line, Rhinox doesn't speak at all, and we fall into the Bay problem of having all of these characters who don't actually have character.

Balancing out a human cast and a robot cast can be a bit much, but it can be done and this movie was doing it well before it added a bunch of other characters it didn't have time for.

Better than most Bay outings, but it left me disappointment. I'd say my expectations were maybe too high but also Bumblebee exists so... 🤷‍♂️
 

lastmaximal

Administrator
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
Yeah, the Maximals and their entire gig have been condensed remarkably well here, but that still necessarily includes making a lot of sacrifices to make room for the backstory baggage.

It was always going to be an overstuffed narrative, which has the side effects of denying much time for characterization and/or character development (for those that DID get characterization). And then there's freaking Unicron and oh, yeah, there's a GI Joe element too (although the latter is entirely sequel hook and not part of the main story, to be fair).

Bumblebee gave us a great storytelling model: a decent human plot that's carried compellingly and is complemented by the Transformer plot. If this movie were entirely about a jaded Noah adjusting to having been booted from the service and caring for his brother, and working with impetuous Mirage and a guilt-ridden (but not homicidal) Optimus Prime to find the transwarp key, that would have been plenty.

Have Prime mistake Scourge and co for Decepticons first, with Scourge hinting at being more (and later name-dropping Unicron). Build to a faceoff in Peru or whatever. Make Bee's death a closing cliffhanger and have the Maximals show up in the stinger, with Prime and Primal having their standoff.
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
They also need to figure out once and for all if this new run of movies starting with Bumblebee and continuing with RotB and its sequels is a reboot or not. Right now they're trying to be both and they have to make a call on that.
 

Cybersnark

Well-known member
Citizen
Y'know, if not for the name recognition (and the fan expectations stemming from it), Cheetor & Rhinox work fine for what they are, which is essentially toy-only characters making a cameo appearance. Like, if you'd just search-and-replaced the movie Maximals with, I dunno, B'Boom, Sonar, Ramulus, and Jawbreaker, would people still be complaining, or would they just be thrilled that their obscure favourites actually got any screentime?

See, the thing about all of these movies is that Hasbro wants to sell as many toys as possible, but the writers and VFX people don't want too many characters, so we end up compromising with either multiple off-screen characters (as in the early Bay-based toylines), armies of cameos who don't really do anything for the plot, or multiple equally-inaccurate toys of the same character.
 

CoffeeHorse

Exhausted, but still standing.
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
I wish they'd release a director's cut and let us see the story they intended to tell here. 'More' seems like the last thing this movie needs, but if it includes more breathing room maybe it would all balance out better.
 

lastmaximal

Administrator
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
It didn't work as well for me when the Snyder Cut did it. But I think there's more I like here to start with, so maybe.

But that just cements the notion that all that, properly paced and fleshed out, could have made for two films rather than half-assing each into one.
Y'know, if not for the name recognition (and the fan expectations stemming from it), Cheetor & Rhinox work fine for what they are, which is essentially toy-only characters making a cameo appearance. Like, if you'd just search-and-replaced the movie Maximals with, I dunno, B'Boom, Sonar, Ramulus, and Jawbreaker, would people still be complaining, or would they just be thrilled that their obscure favourites actually got any screentime?

See, the thing about all of these movies is that Hasbro wants to sell as many toys as possible, but the writers and VFX people don't want too many characters, so we end up compromising with either multiple off-screen characters (as in the early Bay-based toylines), armies of cameos who don't really do anything for the plot, or multiple equally-inaccurate toys of the same character.

Eh. I feel the complaint stands whether it's Cheetor or Claw Jaw. Either gets that "audience gleeful they're there at all" we've always gotten since the first movie (so much of the discussion then was fan begging for x or y to be onscreen regardless of the Bay "characterization" stuff), and either remains a cipher on screen when portrayed Iike this.

I will say that I dearly miss the days of tons of offscreen characters in the toyline, and would rather have that than four Arcees, there Cheetors, two Airazors and a Primal in a pear tree. At least give each different iteration a "mission deco" or something. But then, that might have resulted in me picking Weaponizer Arcee as my ROTB Arcee... and having her be orange. So I guess some in-between.
 


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