What stupid thing did the GOP say or do this time? Episode 3!
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So, to review, in the days leading up to McCarthy's ouster, several Democrats floated out there that they were interested in talking to McCarthy about a solution. Obviously they weren't offering to just do him a favor. But they were willing to talk about what they would need to rescue him from Gaetz. Gaetz, of course, had baited McCarthy, saying on evening TV that the Democrats would probably save McCarthy. On the morning of, McCarthy inexplicably said to a camera that he wasn't making any deals with Democrats. So the Democrats did not save him.
After Jordan's first vote failure, this was McCarthy:
"The reason we are here is every single Democrat voted to stymie one branch of government. They created this mess with 8 Republicans. Every single Democrat did this."
After Jordan's first vote failure, this was McCarthy:
"The reason we are here is every single Democrat voted to stymie one branch of government. They created this mess with 8 Republicans. Every single Democrat did this."
Because the narrative and the clicks are more important than actually doing the job.
Republicans remind me of the bunk bed scene from Step Brothers.
"The bunk beds were a terrible idea! Why did you let us do that?! It's so bad!"
"The bunk beds were a terrible idea! Why did you let us do that?! It's so bad!"
It occurs that the maga caucus are basically batman villains. It's not enough to be committing the crimes, but they also have to be SEEN committing the crimes.
And they're not even good villains. Characters like the Joker or the Penguin or Poison Ivy who are at least memorable and entertaining to watch. They're, like, Condiment King or the Monarch of Menace. The stupid ones you'll forget as anything but a punchline as soon as they're off screen.
So Jordan has decided to not seek a third vote.
Separate flights until the republican party can act like an adult?
So, forever?
Forever is long, long time.
I was raised by Republicans to be one and I changed perspective on a lot of things and had some disillusionment, but I believe they used to be better and can be again.
Jesus christ the GOP is in full on Civil Bitch Fight mode right now. Just lost all unity in the House this week.
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I think the best part is someone almost took a swing at Gaetz. So now they're blocking one another on Twitter, having knock down screaming fights in meetings, and doing nothing to advance their own agenda.
Ironbite-Trump really did kill a political party.
Private GOP Meeting on Speaker Mess Devolves Into Pure Chaos
One congressman even left the meeting early to pray for an end to the madness.
I think the best part is someone almost took a swing at Gaetz. So now they're blocking one another on Twitter, having knock down screaming fights in meetings, and doing nothing to advance their own agenda.
Ironbite-Trump really did kill a political party.
They've a very long way to go before they can ever be a serious political party, never mind a political force, again. But whose to say what a few generations of "shut up and sit down: you had your chance and absolutely blew it" will do to an ideology.
Same here, but when I honestly look back on it, when were they better? Bush W, not really, listened to the same folks that his dad and Reagan did. Bush Sr, nope. Reagan, started the process to destroy the middle class. Ford? Maybe? Nixon, definitely not.
Texas is creeping toward blue. Georgia voted for Biden and showed black people in Alabama and Mississippi that going to the polls is worth a shot. The GOP is going to be having a lot of trouble getting their backbone states in the Senate and White House. The day Texas goes blue or has a near miss, you are going to see a dynamic shift in the party platforms. A whole lot of issues that have been contended for years but are no longer working are going to see the Democratic position becoming good old America values. Climate Change is going to be one of them. Already Republicans are trying to maneuver to the other side on that and Trump's populism showed the path. Big Business is who is really opposed to climate change work and the GOP is not really ringing their bell like they used to.
We're talking about two different things, I guess. Politics have always been politics and there have always been things going on that we didn't know about and of course the parties have always disagreed about what needed to be done and how to do it than we do.
If you want to know when they were better than THIS, they were ALWAYS better than THIS.
The Clinton impeachment may have been the start of the "We will do whatever it takes to embarrass the other party" thing. They still looked like grownups, at least to me, at that point. They looked like grownups through W. You don't have to agree with what a grownup is doing for them to be a grownup. Tea Party was probably the beginning of the "we will hold the government hostage over our pet issue even if we know we can't win" stuff. Even there, guys like Ted Cruz were looking slimy but it didn't occur to me where things were going. Gaetz and Tayler-Green and Santos are outright clowns. That is pretty new.
It is a pretty new thing to have people in the House of Representatives who, despite having only 2 years before needing to be reelected, are public with the fact that their goal is to keep anything from happening because their party is in the minority and the other party cannot be allowed to pass legislation. It is pretty new for the Senate to say, "No, we won't have a vote on your nominees."
Something people always don't want to talk about nowadays is that Reagan won in landslides. Carter won 6 states and DC. Mondale got Minnesota and DC, 13 Electoral votes. This despite the country giving a Democratic majority in the House of Representatives EVERY TIME. Reagan never had a Republican House of Representatives. A huge number of Democrats agreed that he was on the right track at the polls and in Congress, at the very least, he was able to make deals. They were cooperating. The Democrats talking about Reagan now are mostly not the same Democrats that were there at the time, but it isn't really fair to just say the GOP was running the table.
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Hey wanna know what's happening now? Republicans are having consequences!
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Ironbite-love this.
Ken Buck says he received death threats, eviction notice for opposing Jim Jordan's bid for speaker
Republican U.S. Rep Ken Buck said Thursday that he received four death threats and has been evicted from a congressional office in his district for opposing U.S. Rep. Jim Jordan's bid for House speaker as the GOP-controlled chamber went another day without electing a leader.
Ironbite-love this.
The first thing the pro-tem speaker did was evict a bunch democrats from offices no one else wanted or needed to use. But we already knew that republicans don't believe that housing is a human right.