Wicked Part 1

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So this came out on Home Media a few weeks ago, but we finally got the family to sit down and watch it this weekend. For those not familiar, it is a prequel to Wizard of Oz, and sets up the world a bit differently than the story that we know. It reminds me of Maleficent in that way. Here is the trailer:




My spoiler free review is that it is a great musical, but I don't see why it was split up as the story just gets going and feel like half a film rather than a part of a story. I loved the cameo appearances by the original Broadway cast. Getting to show my kids what Elsa really looks like was cool. I would rank this film a strong 3 out of 5, simply because the story isn't there, but the music, especially Popular and Defying Gravity, make up for the film's short comings. It's a good film for the family.


Spoiler review:

We start off right after the end of Wizard of Oz. The good witch, played by Ariana Grande (who does an amazing job in the film) has come down to Munchkin land to let everyone know that the wicked witch of the west (WWOTW) is dead. There is a great party, and they burn the witch in effigy. Someone asks her as she is leaving that they were friends once, which triggers the flashback that is the film. We start off to see that the WWOTW is from Munchkin land, her mother is married to the governor, and while away she drinks this green liquor and has an affair with an unknown man that is only in town for one more day. Well, 9 months later, out comes the baby and everyone is appalled and disgusted that she is green. The governor is telling the staff to take the baby away, but that triggers her magic and sends everything crashing into the ceiling. She is raised by her nanny. and has one sister that is in a wheel chair. (We find out later that the dad made the mom eat milkwood flowers to prevent the second child from being green, which forced early child birth and killed the mother).

I should note that a lot of the staff are animals. They are intelligent and speak clear English. It seems that the animals in this world are very intelligent, which I guess explains how the lion could talk in the original Oz film.

Flash forward a few times and the younger sister who is the golden child of the family is being sent to a prestigious boarding school called Shiz. Of course, WWOTW comes along with her as well as her father to see her off there. There is a witch there, played by Michelle Yeoh, and she talks about the rarity of magic in their world and tells the good witch that she doesn't teach magic to just anyone, and doesn't think much of her at all. Some over reaching staff member tries to baby WWOTW's little sister which causes WWOTW's magic powers to activate and fling benches into the air and stack into a pile, as well as levitating her sister away from the staff. Michelle Yeoh (Mic YO) sees this, and takes the credit as to not spoke the children of WWOTW anymore than they already are. Mic Yo gets WWOTW admitted to the school as her kind of talent is once in a lifetime, and puts her as a roommate with the future good witch (FGW) as all the rooms have been assigned. WWOTW is excited about this as she thinks that this will get her to the Wizard who will turn her from green to a normal color.

Lots of drama and back and forth goes on at the school with the girls hating each other and just clashing over everything. FGW knows that WWOTW has magic powers and FGW wants to major in sorcery but Mic Yo won't let her. One of the teachers at the school, who is a goat voiced by Peter Dinklage, is on of the few people that WWOTW gets along with at the school. She follows him out one night to a secret animal meeting where they are discussing the fact that someone is out for the animals. The animals are losing their ability to speech or are going missing. She gets caught eaves dropping and then sent back to the school where along the way she runs into the prince and his talking horse. The prince is played by one of the Bridgerton sons if you have watched that show. The prince tries to charm her but fails, and then shows up at the school the next day as the newest student. FGW is head over heels for him and manages to seduce the prince. The prince is a typical nothing matters, live in the moment kind of person, and throws a dance party on his first night there. FGW has a student from Munchkin Land that is head over heels for her, while WWOTW's sister (WWOTE) is in love with. FGW convinces Munchkin Land Boy to invite WWOTE to the dance, as a favor to FGW. He does and WWOTE is extremely happy, and lets WWOTW know about the dance and her date, and that FGW set it up. WWOTW loves her sister more than anything in the world, so WWOTW convinces Mic Yo to teach FGW magic. Before FGW finds this out, she give WWOTW her iconic black hat that FGW's grandmother made as FGW and her friends find the hat hideous. WWOTW shows up to the dance, wearing the hat, and does this weird interpretive style dance. FGW's heart is breaking as WWOTW has just got her the thing that she wanted the most in her life that she couldn't get on her own, so despite the pleas of her friends, she joins WWOTW on the dance floor and does the weird dance with her. Eventually the entire crowd starts dancing with them.

From that point on they are all friends. FGW teaches WWOTW how to be popular, and WWOTW works on controlling her magic. One day in class, her goat teacher is seized and drug away and a new teacher shows up with a baby tiger cub in a cage. Gives a good far right speech about the evil animals. And WWOTW gets so mad that she casts a sleeping spell that knocks everyone but her and the prince out. They get the cub and go take it to freedom. They almost make out in the woods, but WWOTW doesn't want to do that with her friend's boyfriend. Mic Yo is so impressed by the sleeping spell that she sends word to the wizard and a train shows up to take the WWOTW to Emerald City. Mic Yo does some magic and sends the rain clouds away, as they mentioned not wanting her to get wet. The way every one is reacting, I am wondering if all of them are susceptible to water like the WWOTW is. WWOTW convinces FGW to come with her to the Emerald City. WWOTE sees her boyfriend pining over FGW at the train station and leaves in a huff.

They get to the city, and its a magical place with the Broadway cast showing up to tell about the backstory of Oz. Long ago they had magic, but they all died out, and no one could read the magic book anymore. The wizard showed up and could read it, and fulfilled the prophecy. They get to wizard and see he has a monkey royal guard (No wings yet) and that he uses the big giant head for most people, but then when WWOTW tells him her name, out pops the wizard played by Jeff Goldblum. He does a very similar dance to the one that WWOTW did, which makes me believe that he is her biological father, but the story doesn't touch on that. He offers to turn her into a different color, but she chooses instead for him to protect the animals from this persecution. Mic Yo shows up and they show WWOTW the magic book, the Grimrere. Mic Yo can only read a few words of it, but of course WWOTW can read it like a cookbook and the book itself responds to her. The wizard says that his monkey guard captain always wanted to fly and was jealous of the birds, so WWOTW uses the book to give him wings. This of course is a very painful process, and WWOTW wants to stop it, but is told that she can't stop or reverse a Grimrere spell.

The wizard lets it slip that he wants to use the flying monkey as spies, and that its him that is persecuting the animals, as he is using them to rally the people behind a common enemy. Also, the Wizard, can'tactually read the grimrere or do any magic. WWOTW takes the Grimwere and flees. FGW is sent to get her back, and the wizard and MIc Yo turn the city and the flying monkeys after her. Eventually WWOTW and FGW are trapped in a tower that basically the wizard is using like an attic with his old stuff. FGW gives WWOTW a cloak that she finds in there. and WWOTW tries the spell again to give her wings, but instead a broom comes flying over to her. Guards bust in, size FGW, and WWOTW jumps off the tower with the broom. Reconnects to her childhood self on the way down, seemingly unlocking her magic. She then flies up, avoiding the flying monkeys, and attacks the guards. This is where the song Defying gravity kicks in, and it hit pretty hard here. Afterward, WWOTW flies off on her broomstick, Mic Yo give FGW a hug, and that is the end of the film.


Seriously, it's all just setup for the next film, which will probably feel like half of a film in itself. That is major downside of this film is that instead of one epic three and a half hour musical we will get two good films. I think that the whole animal plot could have been done better, and we could have focused more on that. I almost feel like this story could have been a great miniseries rather than two films.


The have already finished shooting for the sequel, as they shot both films at once, and the second part, called Wicked: For Good comes out on November 21, 2025.
 

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I feel kind of weird reading a review of an adaption of a 20 year old musical, so I only got about halfway through.

This movie took full advantage of being able to see the characters' faces, something few get to do at a stage performance. The actors communicate a lot with their faces. Ariana gives us a Galinda whose vulnerability is not all the way hidden and Cynthia gives us an Elphaba that is truly scary mad on Defying Gravity.

My spoiler free review is that it is a great musical, but I don't see why it was split up as the story just gets going and feel like half a film rather than a part of a story.
It seems to me like movies that are clearly part 1 and 2 and drop you for a year are becoming more acceptable these days. The cynical answer to your question is that splitting it into two pieces might be worth half a billion dollars. But this one we should cut them a break. They wanted to do some things that are hard to do on stage. Other than money that is the point of doing this. The musical runs almost 3 hours long and they COULD have just adapted it straight because this movie is just about the same length as the musical, but if you want to add stuff, audiences aren't happy running over 3 hours and it ALSO cuts backward on the money, because the longer the movie is the less showtimes it can have. I think they were right to split it. And honestly where they split it works for me on another level. It sounds like you haven't seen the show before? A lot of what remains happens as a parallel story to the Wizard of Oz. I don't like the rest of the story as much as I like this first part. This movie just as they did it can be the set up for Wicked Part 2 that takes things in ITS direction, but it can also just as it is serve as a prequel to the Wizard of Oz.


I almost feel like this story could have been a great miniseries rather than two films.
See THAT would leave a LOT of money on the table.
 

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I feel kind of weird reading a review of an adaption of a 20 year old musical, so I only got about halfway through.

Considering most people haven't seen it until this movie comes out, I don't really consider the Broadway play to be that widespread among the general movie going populace. Its not like with Hamilton where they recorded the show and presented it on a major streaming service. However, if you are familiar with the story then you only miss my assumption that the Wizard is WWOTW's biological father and this comment:

Seriously, it's all just setup for the next film, which will probably feel like half of a film in itself. That is major downside of this film is that instead of one epic three and a half hour musical we will get two good films. I think that the whole animal plot could have been done better, and we could have focused more on that.

It seems to me like movies that are clearly part 1 and 2 and drop you for a year are becoming more acceptable these days. The cynical answer to your question is that splitting it into two pieces might be worth half a billion dollars.

Yeah, but even with the extra run time they don't do enough with it to justify the extra screen time. Like why not focus on the animals more since it is major plot point of the film? They really should have cut the whole prince nothing matters dance and use that time to focus on the story. Show us more animal persecution, or should us the bigotry building up. Also for most of the film taking place in a school, we only ever see two teachers, one class room, and one of WWOTW's private magic lessons. Shiz feels less like Hogwarts and more like some old ruins being occupied.

And honestly where they split it works for me on another level.

I think that they should have focused more on the school and the animal persecution and then cut the film with her going to Oz to stop it. No need for the big reveal of the wizard as just some inventor, nor for him being behind the animal persecution.

It sounds like you haven't seen the show before?

Yes, but as I mentioned earlier, I would wager that most people, like me, haven't seen it.

A lot of what remains happens as a parallel story to the Wizard of Oz. I don't like the rest of the story as much as I like this first part. This movie just as they did it can be the set up for Wicked Part 2 that takes things in ITS direction, but it can also just as it is serve as a prequel to the Wizard of Oz.

I mean we still have things to get through. like how her sister becomes WWOTE, how she sets up herself with a kingdom, is the Wizard her father, what happens to the prince, etc.

See THAT would leave a LOT of money on the table.

Yeah, they still could have done a better job with the story though.
 

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I am doubtful that you want me to discuss your speculations and questions much. If they were burning you, you could look them up and I don't want to spoil or unspoil anything for you. I actually feel pretty caged in by not spoiling anything.

Broadway shows are a particular interest of mine, so I guess you are probably right. That's why they MAKE the movies of these, to reach a much broader audience. I just have a little trouble relating to the idea of the second half still being mysterious. Certainly they could have spent more time on the animal persecution. They still will. But even after splitting the show (and the show was ALREADY split in the same place, but just for an intermission, not for a year) they do still have to be judicious with their additions. I haven't rewatched it at home yet, but things that just occur to me are the scene in the woods when Elphaba first meets the Fiyero and the flashback to Elphaba's childhood and the scene of them all showing up and school and Elphaba accidentally enrolling. None of that is in the show. Elphaba and Galinda are just new students at the school and so is Elphaba's sister and that's that. And then the action sequences are extended because when you can really run around a building it makes sense to do so, but just running around a stage becomes tedious pretty quickly. Aladdin the Musical does it anyway...

Something you DON'T do when making a movie of a musical is cut one of the songs. "Dancing Through Life" is Fiyero's big song. Fans want to see it, but also it is pretty important to his character. It is part of the show.

The first time I read your last post I thought you were saying to cut Oz being a mortal and being behind the animal persecution, but now that I am going point by point I see that you were just talking about WHERE to split the story. Well, they split it where the show breaks for intermission and for the structure of a musical it is pretty important. Defying Gravity is the apex song in the show. It's the payoff for an awful lot of what has come before and resets the stage for the second half. I don't think they could've split it anywhere else. If I were making a movie of Les Miserables the BOOK and splitting it in two movies, I would add back Fantine's backstory that the stage musical cuts and I would split it when they first arrive in Paris and go to the convent. Because the story is going to skip like 8 years or whatever during intermission. But if I were making a movie of the musical, you have to go all the way to "One More Day" because that is just how it is.
 

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I read the book before it became a musical, then watched the stage musical, and I recently saw the movie. The book is more serious/dark and delves further into the animal persecution and other matters. The stage production lightened things up, simplified characters, and gave it a happy ending. I suspect the movie will do the same. There's also book sequels to Wicked, but they weren't quite as good.

I like that they split the movie in two, it cuts off right around where Act 1 ends in the stage show. I'll likely rewatch it before part 2 comes out.
One of my main gripes w/ the stage show and the movie is the simplifying of the chars that I mentioned earlier. It's been ages since I read the book but I don't think Glinda leaned quite so hard into peppy airhead territory. Just feels cliché to have the moody dark goth girl vs popular girly girl. I might be feeling that more due to the Wednesday series (haven't watched it, but stills/clips have similar vibes).

I do like how they handled Morrible and the Wizard. I couldn't remember if Morrible was good or bad at first. They were both friendly and pleasant until Elphaba stopped being a pawn.
 

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I am doubtful that you want me to discuss your speculations and questions much. If they were burning you, you could look them up and I don't want to spoil or unspoil anything for you. I actually feel pretty caged in by not spoiling anything.

Broadway shows are a particular interest of mine, so I guess you are probably right. That's why they MAKE the movies of these, to reach a much broader audience. I just have a little trouble relating to the idea of the second half still being mysterious. Certainly they could have spent more time on the animal persecution. They still will. But even after splitting the show (and the show was ALREADY split in the same place, but just for an intermission, not for a year) they do still have to be judicious with their additions. I haven't rewatched it at home yet, but things that just occur to me are the scene in the woods when Elphaba first meets the Fiyero and the flashback to Elphaba's childhood and the scene of them all showing up and school and Elphaba accidentally enrolling. None of that is in the show. Elphaba and Galinda are just new students at the school and so is Elphaba's sister and that's that. And then the action sequences are extended because when you can really run around a building it makes sense to do so, but just running around a stage becomes tedious pretty quickly. Aladdin the Musical does it anyway...

Something you DON'T do when making a movie of a musical is cut one of the songs. "Dancing Through Life" is Fiyero's big song. Fans want to see it, but also it is pretty important to his character. It is part of the show.

The first time I read your last post I thought you were saying to cut Oz being a mortal and being behind the animal persecution, but now that I am going point by point I see that you were just talking about WHERE to split the story. Well, they split it where the show breaks for intermission and for the structure of a musical it is pretty important. Defying Gravity is the apex song in the show. It's the payoff for an awful lot of what has come before and resets the stage for the second half. I don't think they could've split it anywhere else. If I were making a movie of Les Miserables the BOOK and splitting it in two movies, I would add back Fantine's backstory that the stage musical cuts and I would split it when they first arrive in Paris and go to the convent. Because the story is going to skip like 8 years or whatever during intermission. But if I were making a movie of the musical, you have to go all the way to "One More Day" because that is just how it is.

Allow me to say that I am not familiar at all with the story, and definitely not as experienced with the show as you are.

I do agree with you that Defying Gravity had to be in the film, now that you mention it. So that means that other places have to be cut to focus more on the plot. Its like in Half blood prince film where they completely gloss over the main plot of the book, to the point that the HBP reveal means nothing.

I still say that "Dancing through Life" is a pointless scene to the plot, and the prince's actions and dialog in the film show his attitude that is beaten into you by the song. :) His attitude, we find out later on, isn't fully genuine as he does care. That being said, it is a great sequence and song but ultimately if we want to focus on the plot, it needs to be cut. Just have Galinda convince the guy to ask out WWOTE to the dance celebrating the Prince's arrival so WWOTW gets Galinda a wand and they can be friends.
 

Axaday

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I felt like the actor playing Fiyero gave away the irony a lot in the movie and pretty early. With his facial expressions. I've never been front row at the show, but I didn't feel like the show gave that away yet. I don't remember exactly how the sequence with the lion cub goes in the show, but I think they built that up a lot for the movie.

I like the song, but the point I was driving at is that even if it were one of the weakest songs in the show, this is a movie of the show. Having the songs is non-negotiable. It'd be SOMEone's favorite.

This movie wasn't made to stand alone and the other half is going to develop the animal stuff more.
 

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I might be feeling that more due to the Wednesday series (haven't watched it, but stills/clips have similar vibes).

I watched a few episodes of Wednesday until my wife was sure she didn't like it and I didn't love it enough to go finish it. But I definitely picked up Wicked vibes there. And LEGO did too. These sets were released the same day.


 

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I hate Fiyero for stepping on books. How dare he!

I cried a bit at Ephelba at the dance when Galinda joined in.

I didn't know it was a two parter so I was checking the time and wondering how in thr world the story would wrap up.

I had a defying gravity fan animatic on loop for a while.
 

MEDdMI

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Me too. The Elphie/Glinda dance scene was very emotional. Love it when they can convey things w/out words.
 


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