Transformers: EarthSpark

[Shadhausen]

Ohhhhh boy....

 

[Shadewing]

I think i found a new person to add to the block list...

 

[MrBlud]

I can understand the reason behind that, they rather not have young children asking questions about grown up issues that a lot of idiots would like pushed into very young children's education, when they aren't ready to learn about such things and stepping over parents right to chose when their children learn about such things

Gender identity is separate from sexual or romantic orientation.

Why not have kids ask questions and learn things?

Why are two teens flirting at a Carnival (apparently!) ok but a genderless robot acknowledging their genderlessness is not? The others Maltobots made choices how to present themselves, why deny Nightshade agency?

To appease bigots? **** that.

 

[Undead Scottsman]

If a child can understand "boy" and "girl" then they can understand "nonbinary." In fact, kids are probably more likely to get the concept as they haven't had decades to galvanize old (and antiquated) gender norms in their minds, where everything has to fall into group M or group F, and those groups have very rigid (and untrue) definitions.

Also kids ask questions they're too young to know the answer to all the time, dealing with that is part of parenting. It's why we have the story of the stork and why the phrase "Ask again when you're older" is a cliche. Suddenly because it's something you're uncomfortable with it's now a big crisis that has to be censored, instead of making parents actually, you know, parent.

 

[NovaSaber]

If a child can understand "boy" and "girl" then they can understand "nonbinary." In fact, kids are probably more likely to get the concept as they haven't had decades to galvanize old (and antiquated) gender norms in their minds, where everything has to fall into group M or group F, and those groups have very rigid (and untrue) definitions.

Based on what the people who find it difficult say when they give any detail at all, I'd go even farther than that.

Teaching oversimplifications and then not discussing any nuance for years afterward directly contributes to people incorrectly seeing the oversimplifications as absolutes.

 

[Dvandom]

As much as this is about Earthspark, it really belongs in the politics forum.

---Dave

 

[Gizmoboy]

As much as this is about Earthspark, it really belongs in the politics forum.

---Dave

If that side of the conversation ends where it is, then it is fine. Any further dive into the topic should be taken to P&R though.