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[ZacWilliam1]

Especially since the toy was packaged unmasked, meaning the spoiler was right there on display for all to see in the plastic bubble, before one ever even bought it and opened it up.

That reminds me of a decent while before Attack of the Clones released and I briefly checked the Anakin figure for a glance only for the package to say something like: "Removable hand to recreate hangar duel!"

Definitely biggest spoiler I've gotten from a toy.


-ZacWilliam, did better than my friend who said he would peek at just one page of the Phantom Menace graphic novel before the movie was out and opened it randomly right to OBi-Wan cutting Maul in half.

 

[LordGigaIce]

I mean I just brought up the Iron Man 3 twist as an example of trailers and toys trying to hide the plot. Didn't mean to get into A Thing about it but sure...

As an Iron Man fan I hated the Iron Man 3 twist. The Mandarin is Tony's archenemy from the comics and all the "he's a racist caricature!" stuff never sat well with me.
Fact is the Mandarin hadn't been treated like a Yellow Peril archetype since the early 70s. He got a massive revision that helped give him much more depth with the Hands of the Mandarin arc in the 80s. Hell, the award winning Invincible Iron Man run in the late 2000s/early 2010s (around when the MCU Iron Man movies were in development) featured the Mandarin as the main villain in a story that utterly stripped away any vestige of the Yellow Peril depiction, down to rewriting his backstory.
A blueprint to do the Mandarin properly had existed, arguably for decades. And they went with that stupid twist.

The most insulting part of it was that the Mandarin as played by Kingsley prior to the twist was yet another suitable reinvention that reflected the era it was made but nooooooo we can't have that.

The Mandarin was teased all the way back in the first Iron Man with the Ten Rings group. Iron Man 3 was supposed to bring that full circle, a buildup to Tony facing off with his comic book nemesis but we didn't get that.
And while the MCU finally put a good Mandarin on screen it was after Tony had been written off meaning that confrontation would never happen.

Iron Man 3 sucks. Its twist sucks. And in retrospect it's when I lost any enthusiasm for the MCU.

 

[Shadewing]

As an Iron Man fan I hated the Iron Man 3 twist. The Mandarin is Tony's archenemy from the comics and all the "he's a racist caricature!" stuff never sat well with me.

For the record, I've never felt that way about him. But the 90's were overly sensitive about that, so it kinda makes sense they'd want to change his colors at least tone down any perceptions of it.

As for MCU, well MCU's worst thing in like 90% of its movies, even the good ones; are the way they handle the villians.

 

[LordGigaIce]

For the record, I've never felt that way about him. But the 90's were overly sensitive about that, so it kinda makes sense they'd want to change his colors at least tone down any perceptions of it.

My apologies. I didn't mean for that to come off as a response to you, but I can see how it did.

I was mostly just referring to the general objections some people had about the prospect of the Mandarin before Iron Man 3/their defence of that movie's twist.

But you're right. The 90s were sensitive about that stuff (understandable) but reacted in weird ways.
"We'll make the Asian coded villain character green!" wasn't even unique to 90s Iron Man. James Bond Jr did that with Dr. No, and I'm pretty sure there's a Flash Gordon cartoon from the late 80s/early 90s where Ming is green.

It's a strange solution to the problem, and one that inadvertently makes things worse if you think about it for like more than three seconds.

For the record I love the 90s Iron Man show. It's goofy fun, and was what got me into the character. I wouldn't have read the comics that fixed the Mandarin if it wasn't for the show that made him green
I still have his action figure even. His hands are translucent green. GREEN WITH EVIL!

As for MCU, well MCU's worst thing in like 90% of its movies, even the good ones; are the way they handle the villians.

They still haven't fixed that. Like... I'm pretty sure Mads Mikkelsen has forgotten he's the main villain of a MCU movie.

They stumbled into Killmonger and Thanos but like the best villain post-Endgame has been who? DeFoe's Norman Osborn? A villain from an unrelated movie series?

 

[Shadewing]

My apologies. I didn't mean for that to come off as a response to you, but I can see how it did.

I was mostly just referring to the general objections some people had about the prospect of the Mandarin before Iron Man 3/their defence of that movie's twist.

But you're right. The 90s were sensitive about that stuff (understandable) but reacted in weird ways.
"We'll make the Asian coded villain character green!" wasn't even unique to 90s Iron Man. James Bond Jr did that with Dr. No, and I'm pretty sure there's a Flash Gordon cartoon from the late 80s/early 90s where Ming is green.

It's a strange solution to the problem, and one that inadvertently makes things worse if you think about it for like more than three seconds.

For the record I love the 90s Iron Man show. It's goofy fun, and was what got me into the character. I wouldn't have read the comics that fixed the Mandarin if it wasn't for the show that made him green
I still have his action figure even. His hands are translucent green. GREEN WITH EVIL!


They still haven't fixed that. Like... I'm pretty sure Mads Mikkelsen has forgotten he's the main villain of a MCU movie.

They stumbled into Killmonger and Thanos but like the best villain post-Endgame has been who? DeFoe's Norman Osborn? A villain from an unrelated movie series?

I didn't think you were actually targeting me, but for Autistic reasons, I felt the need to be sure to state that I didn't buy into that despite mentioning it.

Manderin being green, had some logic to it. I remember, least on his toy, he seems to have scales on his arms. And the rings come from Fin Fang Foom, a Dragon. So it was my believe that him having all the rings altered his appearance to be slightly Dragonish.

 

[Sabrblade]

They stumbled into Killmonger and Thanos but like the best villain post-Endgame has been who?

the MCU finally put a good Mandarin on screen

He may not have been the final-boss evil entity of the movie, but Shang-Chi's father was the main focal antagonist of the movie, and he was an excellent, well-written character with depth and complexity.

 

[Shadewing]

Shang-Chi overall has been probably the best post-End Game movie. Even box office wise it did really damn well... and they've done **** all with it since.

 

[Dekafox]

Yeah, I've been waiting for the sequel they set up at the end, and nada. He was a character I had literally never heard of before, seemed unimportant in the grand scheme of things, and they totally sold me on him.