Transformers: Rise of the Beasts
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That retro-flavored deluxe seemed to come first. Judging from the Beast Alliance toys and what I’ve seen of the promo material and studio series, it seems the beast modes were finalized fairly early, but the robot modes seemed to go through some additional revisions. I get the feeling that the Maximals didn’t deviate from their original designs until farther into the design process, which is likely why Hasbro didn’t have Studio Series iterations planned for last year (and a LOT of the figures aren’t due until the fall anyway).
ALL of the Beast Alliance and Core toys (like the yellow deluxe Cheetor) were based on early concept material and with the expectation that they would be “good enough” for the film’s original planned release for last year. Hasbro didn’t plan to have Studio Series available with the rest Of the line last year, likely to avoid issues we saw with Bumblebee where designs continued to evolve well after work had finished on the product lines.
A similar situation happened with Snake Eyes: despite the delay, the Core action figures didn’t change from using concept designs, but Hasbro was able to redo the Classified figures to closer reflect the final film.
ALL of the Beast Alliance and Core toys (like the yellow deluxe Cheetor) were based on early concept material and with the expectation that they would be “good enough” for the film’s original planned release for last year. Hasbro didn’t plan to have Studio Series available with the rest Of the line last year, likely to avoid issues we saw with Bumblebee where designs continued to evolve well after work had finished on the product lines.
A similar situation happened with Snake Eyes: despite the delay, the Core action figures didn’t change from using concept designs, but Hasbro was able to redo the Classified figures to closer reflect the final film.
I want the non studio series verison of Cheator, it looks better to me
I wouldn't necessarily say it looks better. I would say he has a more BW look to him than the Studio Series. I personally really enjoy the movie-verse versions of the Maximals. I collected the Kingdom/Legacy versions of the Predacons but will probably collect the Studio Series of the Maximals.
So I’m assuming that’s also the case for this Airrazor?
(Yes yes we all hate PvP bc he steals toys but as you can see I was literally searching for emgo vids and this came up so
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I guess I’m trying to figure out the difference between these and the Studio Series line. So will there be like a generic Generations-related RotB subline AND the Generations SS RotB subline? Or are this Cheetor and Airrazor under another already existing subline designation?
I ask because neither of these guys are mentioned in any capacity on tfwiki.
(Yes yes we all hate PvP bc he steals toys but as you can see I was literally searching for emgo vids and this came up so
.)I guess I’m trying to figure out the difference between these and the Studio Series line. So will there be like a generic Generations-related RotB subline AND the Generations SS RotB subline? Or are this Cheetor and Airrazor under another already existing subline designation?
I ask because neither of these guys are mentioned in any capacity on tfwiki.
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Yes, there will be a both mainline Rise of the Beasts toyline (which, along with the movie itself, was originally supposed to come out last year) and proper Studio Series toys for the ROTB characters (which were meant for this year, a year after the mainline toys were supposed to be released last year; both lines being released simultaneously wasn't the original intent, but COVID pushed the movie back another year).
Her mainline toy isn't mentioned yet because, despite it being known of by many leaks, Hasbro still has to officially unveil it, so it's currently still off limits for the wiki.
Her Studio Series toy is.
Her mainline toy isn't mentioned yet because, despite it being known of by many leaks, Hasbro still has to officially unveil it, so it's currently still off limits for the wiki.
So I’m assuming that’s also the case for this Airrazor?
(Yes yes we all hate PvP bc he steals toys but as you can see I was literally searching for emgo vids and this came up so
Bonus points for showing screenshots and not linking to CVC's videos. Also, as tealeaves like them don't usually show the cases or boxes, it's hard to tell with Airrazor?
Btw, if you want to reduce the amount of times the likes of Shiftytron, CVC, etc turn up in your search results or main feed, you can right-click/hold down on the thumbnails of their videos at the main page and select "Don't show me videos from this YouTuber in future" (or something like that). This should then reduce the amount of times you see their stuff spamming your results.
Also, here is a related video by a legit YouTuber that might be of interest:
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There are also screenshots posted in this thread and/or at various TF sites (taken from tealeaf videos), showing further comparisons between the three most recent versions of Airrazor, if you're interested.
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Well in that case, aside from aesthetics and mold differences, what exactly is the difference between SS and the mainline RotB (aka Beast Alliance) figures? Are they supposed to be compatible with all the gimmicky sublines or something while having Generations-level-esque engineering?
Would someone please post all the plot spoilers from the test screening's?
There are Beasts. They Rise. Probably also Transform. Or Convert.
The intent was for it to be the same as the difference between, say, 2007 Voyager Ratchet and Studio Series 04 Ratchet: one's the one they made in time to be part of the big new toyline for the big new movie, and the other's the one they made later after the movie was already out so the designs were definitely 100% finalized and they could concentrate on being accurate to it. The time gap was going to be smaller this time around, but it's the same principle.
But then the movie got delayed, so the already-designed mainline toys had their actual release also delayed since their purpose is to be on shelves when the movie hits, and the delay ended up being long enough that the Studio Series toys "caught up" and are now actually coming out first.
(Hilariously, the effect is that when the mainline toys finally do come out it'll be kind of analogous to later in 2007 when when we started getting movie guys redecoed in G1 colors.)
Ahhhh ok. I guess that makes sense? What confused me was I thought that Generations Studio Series had kind of become the synonymous stand-in for the official subline brand for mainline adult collector-level version of the figures for the movie lines. Much like for the Bumblebee movie, in that there were only the kiddie-play lines, and the "mainline" figures for the movie for adult collectors were all lumped and released under the Generations Studio Series brand. So I guess they're bringing back the mainline brands is the memo I missed. Ok, well.... more toys to buy I suppose.
The main ROTB toyline will have gimmicky figures in it. It's just that it'll also have some normal-ish Deluxe figures in it too.
Kinda like Cyberverse and EarthSpark.
Kinda like Cyberverse and EarthSpark.
The more, the merrier. At least with these film toys both the SS and regular versions seem solid molds. To risk boring everyone with the same message, I hope they repaint both versions of each character/mold into other characters (TM2/Halloween/Night Stalker Cheetor, etc).
There is a Mcgufin that the Terrorcons are after, the Beasts are rising and Optimus is likely going to ask them "Can you Rise?"
Also, explosions at sunset. Like, for 2 solid hours.
This is just me speculating, but my suspicion is that Hasbro just thought "why not just make the Studio Series toys when the movie is released?" since that does look more straightforward on paper, and then Studio Series VW Bee ended up with prominent door wings that had been dropped from the onscreen design and they were like "oh, that's why."Ahhhh ok. I guess that makes sense? What confused me was I thought that Generations Studio Series had kind of become the synonymous stand-in for the official subline brand for mainline adult collector-level version of the figures for the movie lines. Much like for the Bumblebee movie, in that there were only the kiddie-play lines, and the "mainline" figures for the movie for adult collectors were all lumped and released under the Generations Studio Series brand. So I guess they're bringing back the mainline brands is the memo I missed. Ok, well.... more toys to buy I suppose.
I personally don’t think they cared *that* much about that one mold and that one esoteric piece of fanism, but I get your point.
