Transformers: Rise of the Beasts
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Well its like twenty odd years old now, so its time for a new mold for mass retail, thou I think the reason we don't see many encore releases of G1 toys these days is that the molds are beyond use and worn out, thou we don't really see many of the later toys of the post G1 times get reused, Example, in the last year we only begun seeing reissues of the Beast Wars toys
And many of those aren’t even the original 90s molds, at least not completely.
For years I've wanted them to pivot to micro play and give us base bots at the Voyager and Leader price points, and a non-converting Titan class Lost Light that opens up into different bases and suites.
I wouldn't want that to be the ONLY option, but I do love buying tinier versions of things.
I think the price hike for Titans is finally catching up to them. I mean, over here, Titan Cybertron Metroplex is down to under £100 and the Guardian robot on about half its price.
in my local toy store, is saw a load of the ROTB smash changers, those armour bots, the weapon beasts, deluxe mainline Airrazor and, randomly, Buzzworthy Dinobot. Nothing else though
As to the film, having be the overarching threat could be interesting, if done well. I am at least glad we’re back to hell planet Unicron and not Unicron is Earth. It’ll be interesting to see how the Maximals play out against the bots. Also, here’s hoping at least Scourge survives the film, because, well, it would be nice to have a recurring villain.
Also also. Two weird things that have been buzzing around is that they deliberately tried to move away from ‘Autobots Vs Decepticons’ because that’s overdone apparently?
That and the really off the wall theory that Scourge is a reprogrammed evil bayverse Prime.
in my local toy store, is saw a load of the ROTB smash changers, those armour bots, the weapon beasts, deluxe mainline Airrazor and, randomly, Buzzworthy Dinobot. Nothing else though
As to the film, having be the overarching threat could be interesting, if done well. I am at least glad we’re back to hell planet Unicron and not Unicron is Earth. It’ll be interesting to see how the Maximals play out against the bots. Also, here’s hoping at least Scourge survives the film, because, well, it would be nice to have a recurring villain.
Also also. Two weird things that have been buzzing around is that they deliberately tried to move away from ‘Autobots Vs Decepticons’ because that’s overdone apparently?
That and the really off the wall theory that Scourge is a reprogrammed evil bayverse Prime.
That's mostly inspired from how Nemesis Prime was a reprogrammed Optimus Prime from a dark future ruled by Unicron in the Netflix Kingdom cartoon.
Some are suspecting this film to have some plot similarities with that show, all in the name of Hasbro wanting a more consistent broad-strokes lore across the various film and TV series.
Hmm. A dark future Prime kinda works. I think it was the additional theory of it being a reprogrammed Prime from the bayverse timeline. Although I guess I could kindof see that timeline having a very dark ending.
I mean, Unicron was on his way to functionality in TLK, with a cliffhanger hinting that he's still coming.
And the Optimus in this movie is still that same Optimus from Movie 1/ROTF/DOTM/AOE/TLK.
It is kinda funny, and sad. Especially since this is pretty much the second movie in the soft reboot timeline TF films. But you are dead right. None of the bayverse movies had any real major continuity as such. I mean, in very broad strokes they did, except when the writers wanted a new plot hook that basically contradicted what came before.
The first three bayverse movies at least hold together, kindof. Then AOE and TLK just progressively went of the rails.
Put that way, the idea of Scourge being a corrupted version of the Optimus Prime from those films timeline… is still preposterous. But the idea is something they would latch onto.
The first three bayverse movies at least hold together, kindof. Then AOE and TLK just progressively went of the rails.
Put that way, the idea of Scourge being a corrupted version of the Optimus Prime from those films timeline… is still preposterous. But the idea is something they would latch onto.
Same. Back around the Prime and third movie lines, we were seeing some neat stuff like that in the Cyberverse scale (before some numb nuts decided, "hey, let's name our cartoon after that!").
But something where your main characters like Optimus and Megatron can have forces that form giants who are actually giant compared to them, Titans are truly titanic, and there are ships and bases they can actually occupy?
Yeah, I'd love a line built around that. Not saying they have to do it forever afterwards, this franchise doesn't work that way, but for a series? That could be some fun stuff.
As it is, my biggest problem with stuff like the Ark and Fortress Maximus is there's nothing to actually do inside of them! They're more jungle gyms and setpieces than anything the little guys can meaningfully interact with.
That was one play pattern Go-Bots had figured out early:
I loved Cyberverse, but I guess it was too difficult for the designers to maintain that kind of awesomeness forever.
They never did that in the show and it weirds me out, man!
Yeah, I mean keep like Generations etc going, but testing the waters for a year where the kids line is a Micro play pattern line rather than "G1 in this art style"? That'd be fun. Sort of like Micro Machines now but with converting and with base/ship-looking playsets. This can be flanked by their usual other products like one-steps and whatnot, which are mostly reissues anyway.
I got a 3rd well-loved (read: old and half-busted, but it has all the floors and the elevator works) Guardian Command Center recently, and Haywire 3, who's 4-1/2, loves it! Look at the kids aisles, there are still tons of playsets and vehicle/bases there for Paw Patrol, Spidey and Friends, Batman, Bluey, etc. Maybe if Hasbro didn't have pretentions of Transformers being mostly a collectors line, they might try making it be a TOYLINE again and find out that kids might actually play with these TOYS! (Insert appropriate Tom Hanks line here)
Yes, there will be fans who pooh-pooh the "kiddie stuff", but it seems like there are a lot of us who kind of miss the days when Transformers were toys first, collectors item second (if at all).
Yes, there will be fans who pooh-pooh the "kiddie stuff", but it seems like there are a lot of us who kind of miss the days when Transformers were toys first, collectors item second (if at all).
Could Scourge be the Optimus Prime from the other film series or another alternate Optimus Prime?