Captain America Brave New World

Steevy Maximus

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First teaser is out for Brave New World, featuring the return of Anthony Mackie as Sam Wilson, Captain America as well as Harrison Ford as President Thunderbolt Ross. Featuring a lot of spy/espionage stuff with a big focus on Giancarlo Esposito (despite casting reports indicating another villain). Teaser wraps with a tease we’ve all been expecting.
 

Rhinox

too old for this
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You know, Captain America movies are just the frikken gold standard of the MCU. This looks like it has the potential to be just as good as Winter Soldier.
 

Sabrblade

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Turn on the captions and you'll see the name "Samuel Sterns" mentioned as one of the voices speaking in the trailer. Could we finally be seeing a return of Tim Blake Nelson as The Leader?
 

Daith

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That has been in the cards for some time. It's a bit of a green Hulkless reunion cast wise. Liv Tyler is supposedly back as Betty too. The biggest surprise is Esposito as he was an add in to the cast for reshoots after the initial cut went badly supposedly. We aren't sure who he's supposed to be yet.
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

Broke the Matrix
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Oh, wow, I somehow missed that was Ross being played by Harrison Ford.
 

Destron D-69

at Journey's end
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yeah that's why they have the line about him needing to shave off the mustache.

it's also there mechanically to avoid having to explain why redhulk doesn't have one.. which was something dumb the comics did to "keep the mystery" going... >_>
 

Destron D-69

at Journey's end
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I'm honestly not sure if they said it or not at this point... I've known for a while now that Ford would be taking over the role, i think it came up in an interview somebody did about what was going on in like the 3rd round of reshoots or something... or maybe it was a writer or director change... it's been a troubled production at any rate.
 

ZacWilliam1

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It was announced long ago. I'm pretty sure they said it way back when they cast him before shooting the film.

-ZacWilliam, I would not be super invested in this except it's got two Hulk villains in it so I absolutely have to see it.
 

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Destron D-69

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I wish they would show Sam getting the SSS... otherwise him fighting anyone with super powers is going to look ridiculous ... man have my expectations dampened since the start of the thread.
 

Fullstrength Motleypuss

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I wish they would show Sam getting the SSS... otherwise him fighting anyone with super powers is going to look ridiculous ... man have my expectations dampened since the start of the thread.
From the design of his suit it seems pretty clear their are enhancements built in to it, probably based on Stark tech.
 

Ultra Magnus13

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I wish they would show Sam getting the SSS... otherwise him fighting anyone with super powers is going to look ridiculous ... man have my expectations dampened since the start of the thread.

Disagree. For me a lot of Caps appeal is that In the comics the syrum didn't give Cap the powers he has in the MCU it just helped him attain "peak human" strength, agility, endurance, etc.

The idea that he gets by on skill and determination to go toe to toe with guys that should be WAY out of his power class is a core part of his character imo.
 

Steevy Maximus

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Fero has let us down, he’s usually the one who is the first to post a response about these films :p


It was decent! The film is tightly structured, but script is a bit on the thin side. It’s largely the performances that carry things through, and the cast did an admirable job all around. Harrison Ford does a capable job picking up from William Hurt, though, I remain sad that Hurt didn’t live long enough to “finish out” the character arc he started nigh on twenty years ago. Even Ford seemed like he was having a good time making this one.
As stated, the film is tight in its structure. Very little meandering, and at a strait 2 hours, it is probably among the shortest of the recent MCU films. It’s also probably the least “homework” films that I can recall, recently. Most of the high points about Ross and Wilson are recapped (along with the villain). And if you’re watching this, then you’ve probably seen Avengers Endgame. Obviously, seeing The Falcon and Winter Soldier and Incredible Hulk and other films give a more complete context to everyone, but it never felt necessary the way some of the prior films have placed on it. It’s rather unfortunate that the main villain was exposed years ago through casting, the typical “spy fantasy” nature of prior Cap films meant the film DID treat the reveal as a surprise.
All that said…it’s not perfect. It doesn’t really tread new ground, the effects are hit and miss (likely due to reshoots and reworking in development), and the final battle is a bit at odds at the spy nature of the rest of the film. It feels like a lot of the film was reworked to minimize “homework necessity”, and by keeping the story more focused (one of its strengths), it really doesn’t do much to move the overall “MCU narrative”. Probably one of the weakest things about the film is the fact it feels, at times, too much like a retread of material already covered by Winter Soldier and Civil War

By trying to “step away” from the Multiverse/cosmic stuff that has come to dominate the theatrical MCU offerings, Brave New World is hardly brave or new. But it’s like a nice slice of comfort food. It delivers what I want, it doesn’t get bogged down in broader franchise lore, and entire film is still a fun ride. After all the Multiverse stuff, sometimes you want a well made film where good guys fight and win against bad guys, y’know?
 


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