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Rhinox

too old for this
Citizen
None of this matters, Joe. All just talk as you're walking out the ******* door leaving the rest of us to burn.
Where the hug was literally any of this the past 4 goddamn years?
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
Maybe he figured that if he did a good enough job; the US wouldn't deliberately hug itself and world over.
 

Rhinox

too old for this
Citizen
Look, I like Joe. He seemed a nice guy who really wanted what was best for the country. But all that good intention doesn't mean a goddamn thing. We are stuck with Trump for another 4 ******* years and he's already living up to his 'dictator on day one' bullshit.

We needed a firebrand. Someone willing to go out there and kick ass. Not sit back and believe that everything will be alright if we just clap our hands and believe it. We are well and truly fucked and history will show that Joe was the one in charge who sat back and let it happen.
 

Axaday

Well-known member
Citizen
Joe in his 70s was not really capable of being a firebrand and I think we all knew that. We wanted the trains to run on time and on the whole they did.

Joe's biggest mistake is one that I extend a LOT of sympathy to him for. He needed to groom a successor and he didn't. Nobody who is President of the United States decides 4 years was plenty and it is time to move on. We couldn't have expected him to do that and none of us would have done it ourselves. It could have been Kamala or it could've been someone else, but June was too late. People who say she was not qualified are wrong. She had as good a resume as about any President. But she felt tacked on because she was tacked on. We didn't know anything about what she did for 3.5 years and then suddenly he tells the nation that he needs to step aside (he wasn't the first or second or third or fourth to say it) and he has every confidence in her. I hadn't heard her speak since the VP debate. He could have given her high profile things to succeed at all throughout his term and even if he thought he was doing 2 terms, he could have been setting her up to helm his "3rd Term".

He didn't, though. At least by the midterms, Joe knew 1) He was getting too old for this. 2) Trump was not giving up and would be the nominee unless legal troubles sidelined him and 3) Trump was going to make a good showing at the polls. *I* didn't think Trump would win or make it a really close one, but when your career depends on regular elections, you know it is always a risk.
 

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
Citizen
Making Garland AG as a consolation prize for being screwed out of his SCOTUS appointment wasn't the greatest idea either.
 

Corvus

Active member
Citizen
It wasn't kind to the citizens of this country. It was yet another good intention cobblestone paving the road to hell.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
Citizen
History will remember the Democrats of the late 2010s-early 2020s the same way it remembers Neville Chamberlain. "When they go low, we go high" will be the new "peace in our time."
 

Paladin

Well-known member
Citizen


Good ******* GOD they're worthless.
i'm almost glad there probably wont' BE an election in 2028 just to see how badly the Democrat stooge gets trounced.
 

MrBlud

Well-known member
Citizen
I mean,

“The renaming of the Gulf of Mexico and other absurdities like that we just let go,” he said. “But the stuff that really matters — the trade wars that are going to raise costs on people, the mass deportations that are going to raise food prices and cause suffering among huge numbers of families, the pardoning of criminals who beat police and now the focus on tax cuts for really rich people that will do nothing for working families. These are the big fights that we need to focus on.”

doesn’t sound bad. They did learn their lesson after the first term. Trump is going to do so much deranged jive, by the time you work on the first thing he’s done five others. When Trump just stopped Medicaid countrywide you SHOULD focus on that over “Gulf of America”.
 

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
Citizen
Well said MrBlud. The Trump administration just blasted the ship with it's own guns. We have to patch the big leaks below the waterline first before we can tackle the smaller ones or the ones above the waterline. It SUCKS, it really does. We just need to keep reminding people that it's the Republicans and Trump that are enacting policies that are hurting their family and friends, NOT the democrats.
 

Rhinox

too old for this
Citizen
Anything that can be done through executive action can be undone. Ignore the bullshit of renaming bodies of water and other detritus. Focus on releasing 1,500 criminals back onto the street. Focus on the illegal freezing of funds. Focus on the fact that life sucked under Biden, but it's ******* hell under Trump.
 

Axaday

Well-known member
Citizen
I don't give a breath for what the US government calls the gulf. It is meaningless and unenforceable. Some people will adopt the change. Most people will keep saying what they've always said without a thought. The water doesn't belong to us or anyone else, so the authority only extends to what our government will call it.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

Scream all you like, 'cause we're all mad here
Citizen
I'll probably never see the Gulf of Mexico, but I'll see plenty of people suffering from Trump's other atrocities. Focus on the stuff that actually impacts peoples' lives.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
I don't give a breath for what the US government calls the gulf. It is meaningless and unenforceable. Some people will adopt the change. Most people will keep saying what they've always said without a thought. The water doesn't belong to us or anyone else, so the authority only extends to what our government will call it.
Apparently renaming it was to try to get around the drilling ban biden put in.
 


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