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Rhinox

too old for this
Citizen
None of this matters, Joe. All just talk as you're walking out the ******* door leaving the rest of us to burn.
Where the hug was literally any of this the past 4 goddamn years?
 

Rhinox

too old for this
Citizen
Look, I like Joe. He seemed a nice guy who really wanted what was best for the country. But all that good intention doesn't mean a goddamn thing. We are stuck with Trump for another 4 ******* years and he's already living up to his 'dictator on day one' bullshit.

We needed a firebrand. Someone willing to go out there and kick ass. Not sit back and believe that everything will be alright if we just clap our hands and believe it. We are well and truly fucked and history will show that Joe was the one in charge who sat back and let it happen.
 

Axaday

Well-known member
Citizen
Joe in his 70s was not really capable of being a firebrand and I think we all knew that. We wanted the trains to run on time and on the whole they did.

Joe's biggest mistake is one that I extend a LOT of sympathy to him for. He needed to groom a successor and he didn't. Nobody who is President of the United States decides 4 years was plenty and it is time to move on. We couldn't have expected him to do that and none of us would have done it ourselves. It could have been Kamala or it could've been someone else, but June was too late. People who say she was not qualified are wrong. She had as good a resume as about any President. But she felt tacked on because she was tacked on. We didn't know anything about what she did for 3.5 years and then suddenly he tells the nation that he needs to step aside (he wasn't the first or second or third or fourth to say it) and he has every confidence in her. I hadn't heard her speak since the VP debate. He could have given her high profile things to succeed at all throughout his term and even if he thought he was doing 2 terms, he could have been setting her up to helm his "3rd Term".

He didn't, though. At least by the midterms, Joe knew 1) He was getting too old for this. 2) Trump was not giving up and would be the nominee unless legal troubles sidelined him and 3) Trump was going to make a good showing at the polls. *I* didn't think Trump would win or make it a really close one, but when your career depends on regular elections, you know it is always a risk.
 

Corvus

Active member
Citizen
It wasn't kind to the citizens of this country. It was yet another good intention cobblestone paving the road to hell.
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
Citizen
History will remember the Democrats of the late 2010s-early 2020s the same way it remembers Neville Chamberlain. "When they go low, we go high" will be the new "peace in our time."
 


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