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This is the US Congress we're talking about; 90% of Americans hate every member of it except their own, who is a perfect flawless saint and almost never loses a general election and definitely never loses a primary.
 

Thylacine 2000

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That author is badly deluded.

He wants more Dems to join AOC as a "left-populist brawler for the working class"? Populist working class appeals will require heavily modifying or completely abandoning much of what the audience of The Nation considers settled questions.

Look at the results of this Harvard-Harris poll taken a few weeks ago.


Start on page 17. Notice when Trump's stances earn 50+% among Independents. Notice 70% of Independents and 60% OF DEMOCRATS supporting ICE raids. Then ask author Dave Zirin to explain exactly how "populism" and left-wing politics mix.

Later Zirin accuses Democrats of cowardice because "they failed to codify Roe after it was overturned." Like Michael Scott shouting "I - DECLARE - BANKRUPTCY!", it is someone ritually mouthing words they do not understand. All laws are subject to judicial review. SCOTUS overturned Roe once and would do so again.

And of course, because it's The Nation, the author devotes a huge aside to Israel (or as he puts it, "Israel. Israel. Israel."), saying Biden's support was out of touch and cost the youth vote. This is an extremely online view of an extremely online subculture; it is not politically real. The same Harvard-Harris poll I linked above, page 33, showed that 79% of Americans support Israel in the current conflict, with that split recaptured identically for age group 18-24. Former SecState Antony Blinken recently said that every time Biden exerted pressure on Israel, Hamas saw that as a victory and walked away from ceasefire negotiations so the war could continue.


If that strikes anyone as hard to believe, consider changing your preferred media sources.
 
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Axaday

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Israel is super complicated. I support their right to be a nation. I don't know (literally. I don't mean I doubt) if they've treated the Palestinians well enough. I never agree that people who feel oppressed should sneak attack with bombs.

But I feel like Israel struck back too hard and wouldn't stop. I had Facebook friends who couldn't believe Biden was taking Israel's side and when I looked I felt like Biden was pretty measured and reluctant about that. He didn't just get their back. He could've pumped the breaks more, maybe, but he wasn't in charge of Israel.
 


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