Nobody has the intention to invade Ukraine
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Cause the other option is to call out trump for his bullshit: which will turn them into economic targets. They're trying to split the difference: they had to make a statement, but made one that doesn't directly confront trump.
Did we ever discuss here how scummy and tankie-compromised The Onion turned out to be on the Ukraine issue?
theonion.com
Under a banner image of a Ukrainian apartment building blasted open by a Russian missile, they offer "jokes" such as:
This was published in the days immediately following the first news reports of corpses lining the streets after the Bucha Massacre.
abcnews.go.com
The Onion Explains: War Crimes
U.S. president Joe Biden and others have recently accused Russian president Vladimir Putin of committing war crimes during his country’s invasion of Ukraine. But what are war crimes, exactly? The Onion explains the history, rationale, and application of war crimes.
theonion.com
Under a banner image of a Ukrainian apartment building blasted open by a Russian missile, they offer "jokes" such as:
This was published in the days immediately following the first news reports of corpses lining the streets after the Bucha Massacre.
Photos show devastation in Bucha in wake of Russian invasion
Photos reveal the devastation in Bucha, Ukraine, in the wake of the Russian invasion.
abcnews.go.com
Rather incendiary article, but wanted to show my source:
slate.com
Unpaywalled: https://archive.is/txawf
Some potential leaks in what "deals" Trump was trying to make, and there's reference to the New York Times reporting the exact same thing from a different person.
What to Make of Trump’s Total Capitulation to Putin
The president of the United States is parroting Kremlin propaganda.
Some potential leaks in what "deals" Trump was trying to make, and there's reference to the New York Times reporting the exact same thing from a different person.
It also points out another reason for Trump to go after Zelensky besides the recent ego-bruising after everyone rejected his claim that Ukraine started it: the leaked tapes revealing Trump had tried to use him against Hunter Biden, related to how that whole mess started.
Trump gave Europe three weeks to sign off on Ukraine "surrender": MEP
"If we don't, the United States will withdraw from Europe," Finland's Mika Aaltola said on X.
www.newsweek.com
is there anything actually stopping him from nuking the place?
It was never a negotiation: it was legitimization. Russia will look like it's cooperating internationally while trump and putin carve up ukraine and make ridiculous demands of them. Trump will give russia everything it wants (the land, preventing nato membership, forcing ukraining election and I'm sure a mile long list of other capitulations.), and trump gets to say to his base "look! I made peace! I did it! We made a GREAT DEAL!" to try to look good.
And it won't ******* work.
Europe already knows trump is putins puppet, ukraine will never honour an agreement without them being at the table in the first place, nor will they stop fighting. The sad part is: even if ukraine manages to push russia back past the 2014 borders (and on a long enough time line, they do even with only Europe's help.): the US will never vote for ukraine membership with trumps administration. Depending on how successful trumps coup is: ukraine could very well be in for DECADES of having to defend against russia.
Does Ukraine get to keep anything?
Their name as a city-state of Russia. Maybe.
Putin offers Russian and Ukrainian rare minerals to US
The proposal to give the US access to minerals would also include those from territories taken from Ukraine.
www.bbc.co.uk
Zelensky told to leave White House after angry spat with Trump and Vance
The Ukrainian leader was told to leave the White House after an angry exchange with the US president.
www.bbc.co.uk
A bully. Plain and simple.
A small, weak man trying to project size and strength. That's all he's ever been. Unfortunately, it's been enough to get him this far.
I mean, any post-Trump president, if there ever is one, would need to do massive amounts of diplomatic repair to intentional relations and alliances. “West Germany after WWII” levels of rapprochement and apologising.
