Nobody has the intention to invade Ukraine

Pocket

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Frankly, good riddance. Let's get the whole damn country disconnected physically from our internet as soon as possible. They've deserved it ever since they started flooding social media with bots and hacking everything they could get their hands on.
 

Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
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Frankly, good riddance. Let's get the whole damn country disconnected physically from our internet as soon as possible. They've deserved it ever since they started flooding social media with bots and hacking everything they could get their hands on.
It's hard to start a revolution now to unseat Putin... it's even harder if the entire population only sees and hears what Putin wants. I don't know about you but I'd rather not have a North Korea Mk II as large as the US and with working nuclear capacity that can reach the US. (And ignoring the people that are still stuck there, know better, and hate Putin as much as we disliked Trump). Cutting off their internet completely on our side is only doing what Putin wants because then no one can dispute his words.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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The flip side to that is: modern russians have had enough luxury that they more than likely will not endure a drop to that level of deprivation, regardless of the brainwashing.
 

Pocket

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Yeah, cut them off from Steam and the masses will have nothing left to grief but the rich.
 

Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
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Note I said -completely- cut off the internet, which physically disconnecting(or pulling all the backbones) will do. Blocking Steam doesn't stop the flow of actual information, while blocking everything just means you're putting up the Great Firewall of Russia from your side instead of theirs. Leaving Putin's narrative unchallenged just makes it that much harder for the Russian citizens on our side to do anything to turn their fellows. And ultimately it won't do anything about the bots as they're all outsourced. What I'm hearing from the Infosec side is the reason they seem quiet right now is that they're targeting India currently, trying to bring them in on Putin's side.

 

Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
Citizen
Speaking of sanctions being effective, here's a thread I forgot to share a few days ago:

F for Russian furry artists(and frankly I thought Paypal had already done this)

and some Ukraine furry artists(Ukraine never had inbound Paypal, only outbound, so at least a few were using Russian friends' accounts before all this)
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Do the Russians not realize if they kill the Ukraine president at this point they'll just be creating a martyr?

A thread talking about what a huge abject failure that line of invading trucks has become

Lastly, hoping this pans out:
 

Pocket

jumbled pile of person
Citizen
F for Russian furry artists(and frankly I thought Paypal had already done this)

and some Ukraine furry artists(Ukraine never had inbound Paypal, only outbound, so at least a few were using Russian friends' accounts before all this)
Ou4Wi7U.png
Just like PayPal to find a way to hurt the very people who need help the most the one time they attempt to do some good in the world. But maybe this will light a fire under their asses to actually allow signups from Ukraine, at least.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
Even if they manage to take over the country: the entire ******* world will hate them going forward. This was a complete non starter and putin doesn't seem to understand or care.
 

Covert Agent Rodimal

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Even if they manage to take over the country: the entire ******* world will hate them going forward. This was a complete non starter and putin doesn't seem to understand or care.

Minus the 25% of the population of the US that believes Trump is the second coming, that the Democrats are all Communist, and that wear a mask to protect others somehow violates their constitutional rights, anyway.
 

Anonymous X

Well-known member
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Minus the 25% of the population of the US that believes Trump is the second coming, that the Democrats are all Communist, and that wear a mask to protect others somehow violates their constitutional rights, anyway.
To be fair for balance, you can add a load of the DSA-type Hipster Left to that 25%.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
You know, since Russia kind of got unofficially kicked off the Internet, that supposed "25%" have gotten rather quiet.
I actually asked about that on the last page, glad at least someone is noticing something.
 


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