As bad as Florida is, we won't tolerate this. Our state government may be very pro cop, but BSO does not have the clout in Tallahassee that other departments do. No one's going to come to their rescue on this one.
Police behaving badly
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There is a lot of case law and precedent that allows cops to make mistakes with no penalties. Despite the copious errors committed by all of the cops in the last two videos, these are not slam dunk lawsuits. The cops will argue these were 'reasonable' mistakes, allowable under the law and under qualified immunity statutes.
When it comes to judging police actions, the standard is you look at the information they have "at that time", not that they knew later on or became apparent afterwards.
I like the Civil Rights Lawyer. I've been subscribed to him for a while and I watch his stuff often. But understand that his livelihood depends on painting police in a negative light. No, the cops were not right in either video, but to call these easy or slam dunk or obvious cases of violating rights isn't accurate.
When it comes to judging police actions, the standard is you look at the information they have "at that time", not that they knew later on or became apparent afterwards.
I like the Civil Rights Lawyer. I've been subscribed to him for a while and I watch his stuff often. But understand that his livelihood depends on painting police in a negative light. No, the cops were not right in either video, but to call these easy or slam dunk or obvious cases of violating rights isn't accurate.
More importantly, it depends on pretending cases against cops are winnable, because why even spend your money on a lawyer for a case you know you're going to lose?
Most of the time the lawyers want to put up enough of a show that they'll get a settlement from the city or state.
There are many cases that are winnable against police. The difficult part is getting an admission of guilt and/or consequences for the cops involved.
(Also posted at the Florida thread)
www.bbc.com
Florida officer accidentally shoots motorist with his own gun
Officer Mindy Cardwell inadvertently "put pressure on the trigger" of the pistol during the traffic stop.
www.bbc.com
Even the Keystone Cops were never this incompetent.
This is exactly why people panic. Being completely cooperative does not mean you're not going to get shot.
For what it's worth, the officer has been fired. I expect a pretty successful lawsuit, since the department isn't even trying to deny wrongdoing this time.
For what it's worth, the officer has been fired. I expect a pretty successful lawsuit, since the department isn't even trying to deny wrongdoing this time.
I'm actually impressed the department isn't trying to fight anything and moved *very* quickly to can this clown. I mean, yes this is especially egregious, but I am very surprised by the speed.
Here's the big question though. Are they filing to have his credentials yanked? Because otherwise he can just run and get another job in another department.
Here's the big question though. Are they filing to have his credentials yanked? Because otherwise he can just run and get another job in another department.
Her credentials. I don't know how it works, but she was fired for incompetence, so I'd like to think that would show up on her record if she tries to apply elsewhere.
Sorry, her.
No, without having her credentials yanked, having her reported to the regulatory board, it is always a possibility she can be employed by another agency. There are always cop shops willing to overlook the occasional stupidity to fill out a roster without having to spend money on sending a cadet through the academy.
No, without having her credentials yanked, having her reported to the regulatory board, it is always a possibility she can be employed by another agency. There are always cop shops willing to overlook the occasional stupidity to fill out a roster without having to spend money on sending a cadet through the academy.
If one state yanks your credentials, they'll make it known to other states. They take that very seriously. Cop shops will check because if you don't have certification, you have to go to cop school and get them. That school will check nationally and report to your chief that you've been yanked from another state and you can and will be subject to firing and removal.
These are state wide credentials, but other states keep up with whose been yanked and who hasn't.
These are state wide credentials, but other states keep up with whose been yanked and who hasn't.