Ranting about quebec: newspark edition!

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Apparently trudeau and his cabinet are willing to actually do something about the blantant unconstitutional, oppressive and illegal laws (yes, plural.) that the CAQ has passed. The caveat being they have to reach the canadian supreme court first.

The good news is that they probably will. The bad news is that it will take years and quebec will actively enforce and enshrine these laws in culture. The WORST news that even when a canadian judge rules against these laws: quebec under seperatist rule will summarily ignore the judgements and enforce the illegal laws anyway.
 

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In response to the federal government saying they will step in to deal with the illegal and unconstitutional bills, quebec solidaire is openly calling for another sovereignty referendum. Legault is against it: but they are openly talking seperation again in the provincial assemly: and lets be honest here, with the election in october: thats an optimal situation for the seperatists.

So if you live in canada, and wanna buy something from the states, do it now cause the canadian dollar is about to plummet.

Edit: LITERALLY just got called by a caq canvasser asking for my support in the coming election. Because my last name is french. Dude didn't even catch a hint when I answered with ******* "hello". God damn.
 
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So the caq did a thing over the weekend. Hype party in advance of the election when the summer ends. The take away? Legault is going to go to trudeau and demand full power over immigration in quebec.

They've done this before, it is in fact: a very old talking point. They will make a completely unreasonable demand, get shot down, then pound the old nationalism drum to drive the seperatists out in droves over angry rhetoric. They will never get any more control over immigration: but they know that, this is just election pandering to an ignorant, apathetic, xenophobic voter base. The galling thing is that it will work wonderfully for them, because while they will not say sovereignty themsevles, they will also be more than happy to take advantage when the other two seperatist parties won't shut their god forsaken wine and cheese holes.

Also: The "new conservative party of quebec" did a presser today. Preaching stupid noise like freedom and unity. They hope to make great inroads in montreal by fielding a diverse selection of candidates whom we have yet to see. So here's the thing: the caq have no seats in montreal. They also have a super majority in the provincial assembly. If you want to threaten and/or weaken the caq, you need to be pushing out in the regions. All you're doing NOW is further dividing an already completely useless opposition. Go Campaign in lanaudiere, go campaign in trois riviere, go put some time in chibougamou; you ******* moron.

There's plenty of actual work that needs to be done: our infrastructure is collapsing, our hospitals need doctors, our ambulances need drivers, the farmers need ALL KINDS of help ranging from price of fuel rebates to "back to the land" initiatives, to more overt price protections to actually allow people to work farms and earn a living ******* wage. But we're still stuck on "la seperation" and "french needs protecting".

Christ all ******* mighty... Can we just burn it down and start over? It would be faster and easier than trying to fix this stupid jive.
 

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Isn’t a Quebec Conservative Party more than a bit redundant given there’s already several right-leaning parties in Quebec?

(I’ve always assumed that the Quebec Liberals were like a provincial PC elsewhere, CAQ is more of a Reform/Alliance for francophones, and PQ has a nasty redbrown streak.)
 
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wonko the sane?

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No, liberals here are like the liberals on the federal level: idiotic, useless wastes of carbon. But ideologically; they are similar though unrelated. And considering what little I've seen of the quebec tories seems to reflect the federal tories: again similar but unrelated. Of course this is also the first time I've even seen or heard of them, and will probably be the last.

Conservative never really get any traction in quebec. On the whole: their politics were unwelcome back when they even had politics. These days all they have is rhetoric, and frankly: that's no different than the existing over saturated political field in this jive hole province. Even if they trick enough people to get some seats in montreal: the caq is set to do the last mandate all over again, and claim another super majority. A period in which even if there was a united opposition against them: they still couldn't DO ANYTHING! Further splitting the opposition parties will just make legaults next mandate even ******* easier to pull off monstrous jive: and considering how far along the whole "tell me you're a seperatist without saying you're a seperatist" agenda we've already gone, I don't care think about what that stupid son of a bitch will do next.
 

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Legault went to the federals about immigration and trudeau said NO.

So now begins the angry rhetoric about how the feds hate quebec, want to destroy their culture, anti-english bullshit, vandalism and depending on how hard they push it: openly violent assaults against anyone who does not look white enough.
 

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To get around the newly implemented restrictions on cegeps: some high schools are going to start offering ontario styled grade 12, the completion of which will grant a certification equivalent to the cegep prep courses and let people go right into university.

This is also NOT a large scale solution, as only private schools will be able to offer it. The public schools don't have the time, space, money or resources to pull this off, and even if they did: they would still require permission from the education minister, which they won't get because they are human ******* garbage.

Related: another large english school board in the province is joining the EMSB in bringing bill 96 to court. While this doesn't change the likely outcome or the timeline: at least it shows that there is a wide body of support against it.
 

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So the education minister has threatened institutions that attempt to create a grade 12 program, but access to the cegeps was a problem long before the human offal that is barrett was there, so many private schools have long standing grade 12 programs. When asked about THOSE, he gave no answer. But I think I already know what he's going to say. He's going to openly condemn them for bucking the law (despite pre-dating it.) and he will make the annoucement that they have to be disbanded. But the fucker will do it in august so as to ruin the year for as many english students as possible. Also to make it look like the caq is enforcing french policy as harshly as possible, which will be a wonderful supplement to the endless parade of hate we'll already be subject to by that point in the campaign.

Electoral campaigns are only supposed to 31 days in canada: but make no mistake: they are already campaigning and it's xenophobic, hateful, and nationalistic.
 

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Electoral campaigns are only supposed to 31 days in canada: but make no mistake: they are already campaigning and it's xenophobic, hateful, and nationalistic.

Don't worry. If Quebec is even a little bit like Ontario, most people won't even be aware there's an election going on until it's over. This week, Ontario had an election that featured the lowest voter turnout in history with under 44% of eligible voters bothering to show up. The result was the Conservatives having an even stronger majority than before, and the leaders of both opposition parties (left-leaning Liberals and further-left NDP) resigning in disgrace.

Personally, I attribute it to two things. First, more and more people are simply resigning themselves to the fact Canadian society is in decline, and it's not going to get better no matter who we put in charge. None of the parties, despite the grandiose claims some make, have any interest in truly restoring the middle class (and those trying oh-so hard to join it!) to what it was 30+ years ago. Second, the two left-wing parties are increasingly losing the middle-of-the-road demographic who don't care about any of the ideological battles and simply want things to cost less and for their children to have a shot at the same quality of life their parents enjoyed. Or hell, even a better one. That demographic, who previously had the inclination to vote both Liberal or Conservative, are now just staying home in disgust.
 

wonko the sane?

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Yeah: your elections don't actually drive people to violence. The seperatists are more than happy to actually assault people in public places when the nationalistic rhetoric is high: and since they are openly talking seperation in the provincial assembly; it's pretty ******* high.

There will be vandalism, destruction of property both private and public, there will be assaults and voter intimidation: and the folks committing these heinous acts will be lauded as folk heroes just like FLQ peeps are.

I'd happily take a boring election period if it meant my rights as a citizen and human-*******-being weren't being actively stripped away.
 

wonko the sane?

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Welp. They did it, and it's done. Quebec has edited the canadian constitution. It's largely a symbolic move, and apparently doesn't actually MEAN anything... but I can guarantee that's not how it's being sold to les quebecois.
 

wonko the sane?

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So the province is putting a million dollars into a museum exhibit about the french language.

Now: I am normally all in favour of more education, but this is going to completely fail.

1.) it will be heavily biased, and completely politicized. So it won't be useful as an educational tool, more like propaganda.
2.) the people whom this will target are ALREADY propagandized, so it won't affect anything.
3.) the people whom this will target... don't ******* GO to museums.
4.) and finally; 1 million is ******* nothing, and will be exactly one exhibit in one place with no plans to move it around.

So long story short: wantonly incompetent government wastes money. I'm shocked.
 

wonko the sane?

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Two points of note this morning.

1.) manitoba has declared that should a court case against bill 21 (religious symbols.) appear before the supreme court, they will interfer against the bill, because A.) they fear the precedent that could be set, and B.) they feel it's so inarguably WRONG that they could not stand by and do nothing.

2.) canada blood services is facing record low donations. Check the grocery stores and gas stations, boys. They're the ones bleeding us dry.

Nice to see fundamental rights being protected by SOMEONE, even if it isn't the province I live in, or the federal government I pay taxes to.
 

wonko the sane?

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First: some context for today's bitch.

Montreal has spent the last few years pushing towards becoming a tech and AI hub in north america. It makes sense too, with a very large, very cosmopolitan city right here, with some of the worlds leading universities right in the city. Bill 96 has a hard requirement that immigrants learn conversational french in a WHOPPING! six months. For the record, this also includes cases of reunification and reconciliation. Quebec also has a long and storied history of deliberately sabotaging the testing requirements to make as many people as possible FAIL language testing as an excuse to further punish, ostracize and expel them from the province; because despite NOT having the power to do so: turns outs it pretty ******* easy to bully people into believing your bullshit when it comes stamped with a seal and threatening to deport some was all they needed to leg it.

Now on to the bitching.

The tech companies got together and sent a request to the government, asking that they refrain from implementing the six month french language requirement. When quebec tells them NO, because it's officially campaign season now: the tech companies will start moving to plan B which will involve taking the literal hundreds of millions they have invested in the city, it's infrastructure, it's schools, and it's population and ******* off down the road to somewhere the experts they want to bring in/train won't be constantly harassed by a pointless and near impossible to achieve government requirement.

And this is what happens every. *******. time. the frenchies get hopped up on their nationalistic bullshit. The people suffer, the economy suffers, and it pushes more people (beyond the ones that would leave directly because of THIS situation.) into leaving because it's just not worth it to stick around. Hell, some folks started planning their garage sales the second the PQ said "referendum" in the provincial assembly the other week.
 

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Welp, despite being told that they absolutely cannot do that: quebec wrote into bill 96 that federally chartered industries (like airlines and telecommunications.) are now subject to bill 96, and consequently MUST BE unilaterally operated in french.

Bill c13 is being written to counter this, but for ***** sake: why are we still doing this now? Isn't there enough REAL WORK to do that we don't need to waste time, money and energy fighting over ******* language? Oh, you just know that the pequists will summarily ignore the federal law anyway: since they already goddamn well ARE. The canadian language laws state quite clearly that canada is a bilingual country, and that all services, safety information and government missives will be available in NOT ONLY the citizens chosen language, but in all other languages on request. Quebec is literally considering switching to pictograms for roads signs so as to not have to put any ******* english up at all. They might as well: no one reads the damn things anyway.
 

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Air canada is currently cutting it's flight rotation for summer. Air canada is cutting the first full scale summer flight rotation after a global pandemic. Why? Well, they apparently can't handle the pre-pandemic level of traffic through the airports because of the wanton and massive staff shortages.

So just like requiring appointments at the walk in clinics: they aren't bothering to SOLVE the ******* problems, they are simply HIDING the scale of the problem by increasing prices and reducing services.
 

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Yeah it's almost as if trying to ramp up your business after laying off a thousand employees leads to problems.
 

wonko the sane?

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Nova Scotia has passed legislation declaring that Mi'kMaw is the first (original.) language of the province, and that legislation has conditions for the language to be taught in all schools, and greatly increase it's exposure in the province at large.

Y'all can see where I'm going with this.

Quebec can't even admit the english are actually people, let alone that we contribute to the province. WHY does this place suck so ******* much?
 

wonko the sane?

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So healthcare in the province has officially reached the governmental desperation point: employees are being forced into mandatory overtime BUT that overtime is literally double pay.

Which prompts the immediate question of "if you're paying one person the on paper wages of THREE people, why not just ******* HIRE two more people and get it goddamn well over with?", and you're hit with the immediate answer of "Oh, the working conditions and requirements suck so ******* much that there literally aren't two other people to hire.".

No one in charge here ever ******* learns because this happens in every decade: some needed industry (most recently: mass transit, specifically mechanics and maintenance.) are incapable of keeping up with demand and threatening the stability of the service and all surrounding sectors all while paying out two to three time what they would otherwise if they would just ******* HIRE MORE PEOPLE. Increase your wages, offer benefits, maybe slack a little on the "white, male and french" requirements and actually draw people to the industry instead of trying to maintain some idiotic sense of cultural purity and get back to ******* work already.
 


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