He also comes back in IDW's current Star Trek ongoing.Could I ask for some clarification on this line? Because, obviously, Sisko did come back in the Pocket DS9 stories, about a year after he ascended.
He also comes back in IDW's current Star Trek ongoing.Could I ask for some clarification on this line? Because, obviously, Sisko did come back in the Pocket DS9 stories, about a year after he ascended.
So would Sisko, which is why he initially kept the cure to the Founder plague under wraps. But necessary or otherwise, I really appreciate that Deep Space 9 consistently treats them as evil. Discovery wanted to maintain an ambiguous relationship to them even when they were themselves responsible for the quadrant-ending threat. We're supposed to take for granted to some extent the rationalization that they keep everyone else's hands clean. In Deep Space 9, Bashir actively works to root them out and expose them, climaxing in capturing and killing a guy. He does estimate (with real conspiracy math used in the real world) that there have to be at least 70+ people involved in the coverups he knows, and we don't see him continue to fight them after he kills Sloan and saves Odo, but up to that point he openly treats them as an enemy, not a misguided ally. It's a pity he doesn't seem to have gone on to rat them out to the Tal Shiar or something.^This. Section 31 is something that you are supposed to dislike about the Federation. However, it also shows a reflection on yourself. Do you adamantly want them gone or do you accept that they are a necessary evil?
I would argue that they helped bring about the end of the Dominion War.
As for Sisko and Jake, everyone noticed that. Its part of why Sisko is such an awesome character, and I can't say it any better than this one man did to Avery Brooks himself. I looked for the clip but I can't seemed to find it now. What it was, at a convention appearance, this young man told him that he didn't have a father growing up and that watching Sisko and Jake taught him how to be a father to his son. Avery Brooks was so moved, the man jumped off the stage and went and gave the man a hug.
It just did!I'm waiting for SNW season 2 to end before I watch it whole.
Oh, that part could never have been otherwise. Star Trek takes, and has always taken, its sociology way more seriously than its hard sciences. Deep Space 9 is slightly better at it than most at capturing verisimilitude and leveraging the various humanoid species as fully realized societies and polities analogous to the ones that exist on Earth, and they're still humans with a spot of latex on thanks to ancient astronauts seeding the galaxy with teleologically evolving DNA.Yeah, people/writers love to bring up “realism” when it comes to propping up Utopia with a seedy underbelly but somehow Q, nebula babies, warp drive, transporters, replicators, Warp 10 evolution lizards, etc always seem to manage a pass.
....and on August 19, Mars (Sol IV) joins the UFP, having sat out the original negotiations in order to assert their own independence from Earth. So I recall reading on Memory Beta, anyway.Happy Federation Day!
On August 12, 2161, Humans, Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites came together to form the United Federation of Planets.
....and on August 19, Mars (Sol IV) joins the UFP, having sat out the original negotiations in order to assert their own independence from Earth.
I suppose we were expected to draw the parallel between the Coalition of Planets and the League of Nations (with the UFP being analogous to the UN which replaced it). Given the Coalition membership of both Beta Rigel and Coridan (that did not translate into instant UFP membership), however, it occurred to me to think in terms of the EU vs. the European Economic Area.Considering that we have no canon coverage of that era at all, and thus relying only on the books; the Coalition ceased to exist during the Romulan War (the Vulcans and Andorians both pulled out to protect their own interests and the Tellarites didn't have much of a navy anyway)...
Which is interesting, as the same episode implies that, (after shedding a pro-Vulcan government and going through the war) Coridan became a Tellarite protectorate prior to the 2260s?and Coridan was targeted by a Romulan kamikaze attack that basically ended their existence as an interstellar power (the Romulans flew a ship into the planet at warp speeds, triggering a planetwide firestorm that wiped out half the population). The holocaust also triggered waves of civil wars that further depopulated the planet (and made it easy for the Orions to move in and start looting).
They had only begun to recover by the 23rd century (where Coridan is mentioned in "Journey to Babel" as wanting Federation membership to protect themselves from the Orions).
It's funny you mention that....Shame it was all a holonovel.