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Fero McPigletron

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Going slowly with the Voyager eps.

Saw Worst Case Scenario. Looooved the start then loooooved the reveal then looooved them all arguing about narrative elements to add to the holonovel. Seska the villain was great (btw, what happened to the baby?). Slightly miffed that it started out as B'Elanna doing the novel then Paris hijacks her. Looooved how everybody loved the story and wanted more. Made me so giddy for storytellers.

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"Bridge to Chakotay. Scorpion."

That was so badass! Also, the Borg scenes were still so scary to see. Hope the fluid space species 8716whatever aren't written out.

Well, I guess I was wrong about Kes being 7 of 9. I thought she was going to be assimilated and her original personality to be purged. But would also save her live since she was dying from old age anyhow.

When 7 of 9 appeared in an actual body, I thought maybe she and Kes would merge somehow, since Kes was needed to telepathically talk to the aliens and 7 of 9's Borg implants were needed to implant the virus whatever. But no, two different people.
 
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Fero McPigletron

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Watched a bunch of Voyagers but discovered that Bryan Fuller, creator of my fave canceled shows Wonderfalls and Pushing Daisies had been writing eps! And he wrote the Empok Nor suspense ep from DS9 too, oooo.

In Mortal Coil when Neelix died, his afterlife guide was the Guiding Tree from the Great Forest. I'm just disappointed that this wasn't mentioned in Lower Decks along with the Black Mountain, the Klingon thing I forget and the Koala.

Where was the Black Mountain first mentioned?
 

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The show will be set in the 25th century. According to an official logline, it will follow “Federation outsiders serving a gleaming resort planet find out their day-to-day exploits are being broadcast to the entire quadrant."

So DS9-like "reality show", done Lower Decks style?

Also word is on the Academy series, it's going to have the Doctor in it, and I saw someone point out that the Living Witness episode of Voyager takes place post-Burn, so this could be the Living Witness Doctor making it back just to find the post-Burn Federation, and then getting involved in the new Academy restart. Reno is supposed to be a regular too, but surprisingly not Tilly even though it looked like they were setting her up for that in Discovery.
 
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Also word is on the Academy series, it's going to have the Doctor in it, and I saw someone point out that the Living Witness episode of Voyager takes place post-Burn, so this could be the Living Witness Doctor making it back just to find the post-Burn Federation, and then getting involved in the new Academy restart.
"The Doctor"? Which one do you mean?
 

Fero McPigletron

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Still going thru Voyager (at random bursts). There's still been a bunch of awesome eps but just wanted to mention The Killing Game 2 parter. It was crazy, with which life to believe, with the Nazi stuff vs the real Voyager stuff vs the Hirogen.

I only liked the Hirogen now because of the awesome Captain Karr who wanted to use the holodecks to help his race stop spreading themselves too thin, to stop 'hunting' themselves to extinction or whatever. I loved the idea because, well, it was like using video games to help their hunting mentality, haha.

Too bad Karr died, killed by the second in command Turanj. But I also liked because he was convinced by a broken hearted Nazi that he should preserve their way of life, their culture, which, y'know, is still valid. He shouldn't have killed Karr but I get his view too.

And I sympathized with the poor, evil supposedly nameless holo Nazi guy who was the father of B'Elanna 's fake holo baby. His holo love was betrayed, both by B'Elanna being a spy and later seeing Tom Paris as her former lover. I guess he was just angry and didn't want a ceasefire and prompted to inspire Turanj to betray Karr with his horrifying 'keep the race pure' speech. Sad that he just got stabbed by a holo Klingon. He was a holo Nazi and not a real person but, I dunno, he had some dimensions, haha

It's a lot of action but I kinda loved the craziness of it. Hope the Hirogen use the holodeck tech to help their race.

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Dang it, I want the Hirogen to appear in Lower Decks but I remember the Bold Boimler ep where a monster alien was hunting him for sport. THAT alien should have been a Hirogen.
 

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Still going thru Voyager (at random bursts). There's still been a bunch of awesome eps but just wanted to mention The Killing Game 2 parter. It was crazy, with which life to believe, with the Nazi stuff vs the real Voyager stuff vs the Hirogen.

I only liked the Hirogen now because of the awesome Captain Karr who wanted to use the holodecks to help his race stop spreading themselves too thin, to stop 'hunting' themselves to extinction or whatever. I loved the idea because, well, it was like using video games to help their hunting mentality, haha.

Too bad Karr died, killed by the second in command Turanj. But I also liked because he was convinced by a broken hearted Nazi that he should preserve their way of life, their culture, which, y'know, is still valid. He shouldn't have killed Karr but I get his view too.

And I sympathized with the poor, evil supposedly nameless holo Nazi guy who was the father of B'Elanna 's fake holo baby. His holo love was betrayed, both by B'Elanna being a spy and later seeing Tom Paris as her former lover. I guess he was just angry and didn't want a ceasefire and prompted to inspire Turanj to betray Karr with his horrifying 'keep the race pure' speech. Sad that he just got stabbed by a holo Klingon. He was a holo Nazi and not a real person but, I dunno, he had some dimensions, haha

It's a lot of action but I kinda loved the craziness of it. Hope the Hirogen use the holodeck tech to help their race.

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Dang it, I want the Hirogen to appear in Lower Decks but I remember the Bold Boimler ep where a monster alien was hunting him for sport. THAT alien should have been a Hirogen.
The only problem with the Hirogen was that whenever others saw them, they always thought the same, NSFW thing...
 

Fero McPigletron

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There is an upcoming sequel to the hirogen holodeck episode. And it's actually quite good.
Ok, I can't wait for that, thanks.

Hmm, I didn't think the Hirogen looked like Predators.

Am in season 5. Saw Chaotica in ep1, woo!

But now I'm repeating the ending of ep2 Drone over and over. And crying.


The clip doesn't have the ending where she was looking at her reflection.
 

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Hmm, I didn't think the Hirogen looked like Predators.
They don't, but they are basically carbon copies of the Preds in everything else.

"...The Hirogen resemble the race of hunter aliens known as Yautja from the Predator franchise, which may have inspired such aspects as the design of the Hirogen's culture, their veneration of "the hunt", the collection and public display of relics, and the use of a breathing apparatus for alien atmospheres. Joe Menosky admitted that the Predator aliens were an influence on the Hirogen, saying of the latter species, "They were our little way of emulating Predator and so forth." (Star Trek Monthly issue 39, p. 13)..."

(Source: - https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Hirogen )
 

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There is actually an episode in Season 4 called Nemesis where they do have Predator knock offs in them.

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The Kradin are just shorter Predators that talk in English without their masks. They don't hunt like Predators but they practically look exactly like them.
 

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Also, we got a new video from the folks over at OTOY and the Roddenberry Archive, narrated by Q:

 

Fero McPigletron

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There is actually an episode in Season 4 called Nemesis where they do have Predator knock offs in them.

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The Kradin are just shorter Predators that talk in English without their masks. They don't hunt like Predators but they practically look exactly like them.
Had to re look them up but, yeah, I do remember that brainwashed Chakotay ep and thinking the those aliens had Predator faces.

There's been a bunch of really deep and thoughtful eps in s5 (In The Flesh [Chakotay! I'm disappointed in you!], Timeless [older Kim], Counterpoint [OMG the sexual tension!], Latent Images [creepy on the doc going crazy] but I'm just being gleeful over Bride of Chaotica, haha. Janeway, holy cow!
 

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