Then again, Galvatron (who was also made from Unicron's power) briefly tried to bear the Matrix right before Scourge did, and it didn't mutate him, just showed him some spooky chanting ghosts.
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Side effects of The Matrix may include:
Headache, Nausea, Itchy Lumps, Melty Transformation, Spooky Ghosts, Furmanisms, or Diarrhea. Do not use The Matrix if you are allergic to it or it's ingredients. Consult a doctor if effects last more than four hours.
Headache, Nausea, Itchy Lumps, Melty Transformation, Spooky Ghosts, Furmanisms, or Diarrhea. Do not use The Matrix if you are allergic to it or it's ingredients. Consult a doctor if effects last more than four hours.
I must have the Matrix, then, since I currently have one of those symptoms (not saying which).
That's how I saw it, that the energy of the Matrix was just fundamentally incompatible with Unicron's minions. It's mixing continuities, but it would explain why it's not "evil" Cybertronians that can't use the Matrix (Thunderwing could, for instance) but specifically Galvatron and Scourge that were "allergic" to it.
I must have the Matrix, then, since I currently have one of those symptoms (not saying which).
Don't worry. Though embarrassing, Furmanisms usually clear up after a few days.
Well and truly, can they do no less?
There are medications specifically to help, but they give you the worst case of indigestion you've ever had!
*whistles innocently*
It's all innocent whistling until the SHEAAAAAAGHHH
Just make sure to flush afterward.
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And wipe after reaping the whirlwind.
Like a vast, predatory turd.
My headcanon is that Ultra Magnus' role was similar to Alpha Trion's from Five Faces of Darkness. In FFoD we see Sentinel Prime get gunned down by Megatron, and he hands the Matrix to Alpha Trion, who is described as having held it until a new worthy Prime could be found, which ended up being Orion/Optimus. Back then Alpha Trion wasn't a Prime, so I just assumed that sometimes the person a dying Prime passes the Matrix to is deemed worthy and becomes a Prime themself, and sometimes they're not, and they just watch over the Matrix until someone worthy comes along. Ultra Magnus and Alpha Trion were in the latter category.
There's no evidence or indication that Alpha Trion actually carried the Matrix inside his chest as a proper Matrix bearer, though.
But of course, that possibility is something that fans have debated about over the years, and is a big reason why I suspect that the Alpha Prime mentioned in Dreamwave's MTMTE #8 profile book may well have been the Dreamwave G1 version of Alpha Trion as a proper Matrix-bearing Prime before he became "Trion", as Dreamwave had a tendency to canonize or simply lean into things that fans either believed or speculated about that originally had no such confirmation, back in the pre-2000s.
For example, in Marvel UK, Ultra Magnus was not an official member of the Wreckers, just a close associate of them who often worked alongside them. But some fans felt that he might as well have been a Wrecker because of that close association he had with them. Come the early 2000s and Dreamwave introduces their version of the Wreckers with Ultra Magnus not only as a full-fledged member but as their actual leader (in the present-day comics, that is. War Within made Springer their past leader).
As a more relevant example, Dreamwave canonized the idea of Orion Pax becoming Optimus Prime upon obtaining the Matrix (in the exact same vein as how the Matrix turned Hot Rod into Rodimus Prime in TFTM), which only further fueled the debates about whether or not Alpha Trion in the G1 cartoon actually used the Matrix to remake Orion Pax into Optimus Prime in "War Dawn".
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No, but he's shown holding it after Sentinel gives it to him, and that's good enough for me!
That's been my headcanon for years, yeah. That "Alpha Prime" was one of the earliest Primes who, rather than dying, gave up the Matrix to a successor and adopted the title "Trion."
That even sort of works with the Thirteen stuff, if we assume Alpha Trion was the one survivor of that war. The Thirteen all kill themselves, and Alpha Prime decides he's going to go incognito as "Alpha Trion," believing that the nascent Cybertronian civilization can't rely on their gods and heroes forever and it's best if everyone thinks "Alpha Prime" died with the rest of them.
Alas, "Alpha Prime" is Primon now. All because no one else connected the dots between him and Dreamwave's Alpha Trion.
You talkin' bout the Dreamwave version of the Thirteen? Cuz that version of them weren't supposed to be Primes, while Dreamwave A3 was supposed to be born in the first generation of post-Thirteen Cybertronians, with only The Fallen (and, according to rumors by drunks, Maccadam) surviving the ancient battle with Unicron.
Was that canonized?
No, just talking about my headcanon version of the Thirteen. So a lot of different influences in there, DW among them
Dear Vector Prime,
Q: Were the early Matrix bearers in FFOD 4 named?
A: Yes. The first narrator was named Primon, the Alpha Prime. Next was Prima who fought Sentinel Major. The third was named Prime Nova, or Nova Prime. He was followed by Guardian Prime. Next was Zeta Prime, and then Sentinel Prime. The last narrator was Optimus Prime.
--Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II, Page 67
Personal opinion: "Guardian Prime" is such a lousy name. Worst name Dreamwave ever created.
It really is shocking it took IDW to realize they could just flip "Prime Nova" around to "Nova Prime" instead.
And this wasn't even the Facebook version from the final Fun Pub years, so it wasn't even an actual question asked by a fan.