Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

wonko the sane?

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Yeah, I think you might be right. I didn't imagine I could think less of trump supporters: but you managed to make it happen man, congrats!
 

Axaday

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I wish I was a high level employee of the secret service ready to retire. If I was, I would go to testify to Congress about the second attempt and say "We just need to accept that Presidential assassinations are just a fact of life now"
 

Axaday

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It's used under liscence: so no, it's not going to a pac or the campaign. It's straight up profit going right into trumps wallet.
I think he has the money they know how to use in the campaign accounts and especially if he is going to lose, he doesn't want another dollar in that account if it could be in his own account instead.
 

wonko the sane?

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That's been his motive all along: it's why some of the campaign infrastructure is and always has been in trump properties, paying full value on the rent.
 

Axaday

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That's been his motive all along: it's why some of the campaign infrastructure is and always has been in trump properties, paying full value on the rent.
Unless it has changed, the secret service have to buy memberships at Mar-a-Lago so the they can protect him there.
 

CoffeeHorse

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Whenever he offers me a free trip to Mar-a-Lago, "trip" refers specifically to the transportation and nothing else. The Mar-a-Lago part isn't free.
 

Pocket

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I think he has the money they know how to use in the campaign accounts and especially if he is going to lose, he doesn't want another dollar in that account if it could be in his own account instead.
I'd also question whether anyone connected to his campaign could possibly find a way to turn additional funding into more votes anyway. It's not like he doesn't get all the attention he needs for free from the media; he's just incapable of saying or doing anything on camera that doesn't make him look even worse.
 

wonko the sane?

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Unless it has changed, the secret service have to buy memberships at Mar-a-Lago so the they can protect him there.
It has not: the secret service has been badly in the red since they had to start securing trumps body.
 

KidTDragon

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The solution seems simple enough: Force Trump to waive the membership requirement for Secret Service agents, and withhold S.S. protection at Mar-A-Lago if he refuses.
 

wonko the sane?

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It's a solution, certainly.

No one will do it. Trump won't willingly give up a source of income OR free bodyguards. Republicans in general will fight any legislation attempting to do this act, and democrats won't bring any such legislation forward because of how badly republicans will spin it to make democrats look bad.

There might be traction for a lessened security presence after trump gets sentenced in november, but no one will ever suggest removing it entirely, it's way too easy to make it look like the democrats are trying to kill trump.
 

Rhinox

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There really needs to be legislation that individuals getting secret service protection cannot charge the agency membership fees, rent, or anything that would personally enrich/benefit the protectee.
 

wonko the sane?

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Eh, let the campaigns or the individuals pay for security: otherwise your taxes pay for cops and 911 services.
 

Axaday

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There certainly can't be any legislation or policy change right now that decreases Trump's protection in any way. Only two attempts in this century and they are both him this summer.

I was trying to think what you'd write when there IS a climate to do and I think Rhinox is on the right track. The secret service has to use space that is owned or paid for by the protected, not rent or buy adjacent space. In almost every case it is moot. Presidents and former Presidents generally live in single family homes.

Trump is in a weird spot on this last one, because it as at a business that he owns that generally would be considered responsible for handling some level of security for its patrons. Not so sure I'd want to golf there if I was any other rich guy with enemies and found out someone snuck a military style rifle in there and hid all day waiting to shoot someone.
 

NovaSaber

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They're a match made in hell.

Trump’s inflammatory assertion about immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, whom he baselessly accused at the September presidential debate of eating people’s dogs and cats, has received the most attention. But Trump’s lower-profile recent public appearances, like rallies and interviews, have also featured wholly imaginary tales.


Here are 11 additional examples from the past month alone.

 

G.B.Blackrock

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wonko the sane?

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Trump has been licensing his likeness since the 80's. He never does any of the work, he lets others do that, and he takes his piece right off the top. No effort required on his part, just income and he's not responsible for stuff like infrastructure, taxes, returns or customer service.
 

G.B.Blackrock

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Trump has been licensing his likeness since the 80's. He never does any of the work, he lets others do that, and he takes his piece right off the top. No effort required on his part, just income and he's not responsible for stuff like infrastructure, taxes, returns or customer service.
In other words, he lied when he said he designed it.

Color me shocked.
 


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