Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

wonko the sane?

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Then she's not as a smart as she painted herself out to be. Trump is going to lose in november, and staying as a moderate that refused to endorse him or vote for him would have served her better when the cult collapses.
 

KidTDragon

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Incidentally, given the likelihood that his running mate will be a woman, someone should probably tell Trump that having a female vice president does not entitle him to sex with her.
We'll see if his female VP agrees with that statement. This is a cult, remember.
 

Spin-Out

i cant take it anymore im at my limit
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I'm not suicidal anymore; I'm cis, they don't really care about me. No, I'm too angry to die, because if these MAGA fuckers dare to lay their hands on any of my trans friends, I am going to go berserk.
 

wonko the sane?

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I'm not suicidal anymore; I'm cis, they don't really care about me. No, I'm too angry to die, because if these MAGA fuckers dare to lay their hands on any of my trans friends, I am going to go berserk.
Man, being that angry (without wearing a wolf pelt and swinging a battle axe bigger than you are.) is unhealthy. Don't get angry: get even. Vote blue down ticket, get your friends and family out to the polls so they can do it too.

The worst of it ends in november if enough people vote democrat.
 

KidTDragon

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What's this unfamiliar sensation I'm feeling right now? It's hard to tell because it's so faint that it's barely noticeable, but is it possible that it's... respect for Libertarians? Is that even a thing?
 
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wonko the sane?

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Ahhh, that I could be lulled to sleep each night by the sound of trump being booed and heckled.

And it happened because normally at these kinds of events: the GOP packs the crowd with cultists who cheer and fawn. The libertarians fought back HARD against the maga plants, and documented it. Which raises an interesting question: does trump even know that's happening? I mean, there was real social momentum there once but that was almost 8 years ago. Now we know he's by and large hated, except for his cult that literally idolizes him. The GOP is obviously going to some great lengths to appease trump, and we know he's a relentless narcissist and sociopath: but is he even aware of the effort going into making his events pleasant for him? I mean, he can't be ignorant of the fact that even in the actual pro-trump events people are leaving.

Is trump deluded and demented, or deliberately isolated from reality so he can be the puppet the GOP wants?
 

Rhinox

too old for this
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I really do not understand just why the GOP as an entity has decided to hang on so tightly to Trump. Literally any other candidate would have a really good shot at beating Biden in November. Inflation has absolutely killed any popularity he may have. Really the only thing Biden has going for him is Trump.
The cult may be desperate to see Trump back in office, but I truly believe the vast majority of Americans don't want anything to do with Cheeto Hitler. Meanwhile Trump has been allowed to plant his poison pills so deeply into the machinery of the GOP that any attempt at removal will turn into a massive infight.

I'm really not that worried about November. What worries me is what comes next. How does the GOP handle the loss and what Trump will do when consequences without the chance of a November save?
 

wonko the sane?

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The american public doesn't want trump. The GOP wants trump. And realistically: it doesn't need to be trump, just some shmuck like him.

He has no deep rooted political or revolutionary ideology. No morals, or policy. He literally just wants money and for people to fawn over him. He's the perfect organ grinders monkey while the people ACTUALLY in charge pick everyone's pockets (both metaphorically and physically.). The nearly perfect puppet tyrant while his betters do the actual work of ruling. An agent of chaos for rent to own.

As for the GOP. They need the cult. There is no other option: it's all they have left to them: they cannot win without the cult. They can't win WITH the cult either, mathematically does not work. So after november, once the violence is over: the GOP will pick another trump that they feel will be more easily marketable, maybe one with less prison time in their future, and they will still lose because they will lose the cult. They will not transfer to the next politician.

So the political cycle in 2024-2028 will be republicans desperately trying to recreate what they had with trump, and ever increasing volumes of voter suppression... which will only see mitigated success because the GOP will have notably less actual political power, and be functionally unelectable because "reasonable" conservatives will not back trump, and the cult will not back anyone at all because they are not trump.

It will still take years: but we're watching the republican party DIE because they decided "Yeah, fascism for me, thank you.".
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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Trump is easily controlled by flattering his ego and making him feel important, but not smart enough to figure out what his handlers are doing as long as he's got someone else to flatter him. He's a useful figurehead as long as they keep him away from anything too important. That's all he is to the GOP.
 

CoffeeHorse

Hanging in there
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The DeSantis campaign tanked so hard that it tanked the rest of the non-Trump candidates in the process. The Trump faction had the advantage of being organized around a single candidate from start to finish, while the non-Trump faction ended up having to look for an alternative to their alternative because their first choice obviously wasn't ready for prime time, and by the time they found one it was too late. They wasted so much money and time and morale on such a comically bad campaign they'd had so much confidence in, that it made the whole movement look unserious. No matter how hard they then tried to push their "Here's how Haley can still win" fanfiction pretending to be news, it was not going to matter. They had no credibility left to give her. She did turn out to be a somewhat capable candidate, but she was never going to overcome the stink of being a backup plan they were only pushing because their first plan ended up being a joke. It was too deep a hole to climb out of.
 


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