Transformers Legacy toyline

Shadewing

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Like, his individual components would be like commander class based on their toon appearance. 3 commander class trains obviously ain't in the cards.

I feel like the best one is likely to get is Commander Class Railracer, with the three trains splitting up into voyager sized guys, but with a lot of extra engineering to make work.
 

MrBlud

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With Menasor being around Skyfire height; I don’t think a Commander Rail Racer would be impossible.

Not very likely, but far from impossible.
 

Steevy Maximus

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Yeah, barring Takara stepping forward (which I don't see while they're working on Masterpiece Raiden), Hasbro is in ZERO rush to do any sort of "train character" outside of Astrotrain.
 

Sunstorm

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I usually don't bitch about Transformers. If I'm not impressed with them, I don't buy them and life goes on. However, I just have to say I'm really disappointed that as expensive as they are now, and as much potential as Legacy had, the production quality has been terrible, and they cut corners in places that they shouldn't have.

I don't really see any of the yellowing on any of my pieces yet, but it looks horrible...and I live in fear of the day I find it on my Transformers. My Road Rocket literally has "orange peeling" in the paint, and in some places where paint should most definitely be, like Override's feet, it's just...missing.

Also, although I love him....and he feels solid, Megalo Convoy, (I refuse to call him Metroplex), should have included Minicon ports, a Cyber Planet Key, and Drill Bit for $200 plus dollars. Not even getting started on Motormaster. It almost seems as if Hasbro went from trying to squash 3P infringement, to ensuring that any serious collector would have to tun to the 3P market for missing pieces, sticker applications, etc. I realize we, (collectors), are an extremely small segment of their revenue stream, but damn Hasbro, it REALLY is the small things that make a BIG difference.

Rant over.
 

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Shadewing

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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing a core class Drillbit. Like how the intial plans for Wheelie and Daniel, got priced out and we ended up with the minifigures, but they turned around and made them into the Core class stuff. Maybe the rising cost of materials, which is why cost is going up, meant they couldn't include the usual bonus figure. And considering they're planning to focus on Armada, Core Class would be a decent place to put in Minicons rather then trying to put them in with the figures.


But I do agree about the Minicon ports.
 

CoffeeHorse

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Wheelie is a good example. The original plan got priced out and I'm sure at some point there was no plan to do a proper one, until suddenly there was.
 

Sunstorm

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Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing a core class Drillbit. Like how the intial plans for Wheelie and Daniel, got priced out and we ended up with the minifigures, but they turned around and made them into the Core class stuff. Maybe the rising cost of materials, which is why cost is going up, meant they couldn't include the usual bonus figure. And considering they're planning to focus on Armada, Core Class would be a decent place to put in Minicons rather then trying to put them in with the figures.


But I do agree about the Minicon ports.
I get rising costs...and admittedly, I don't have any insight into toy industry modus operandi other than Spector's fantastic YouTube videos, but there has to be other corners that can be cut...a great example is duplication of characters like Wheelie and Spike / Daniel in such a short time frame.
Pointblank and Peacemaker is another example. I hope I'm wrong, but I dont think Peacemaker is articulated other than folding in half. I have wished for many things from the 80's to return....non-articulated targetmasters have never been on that list. Again...the little things.
 

Shadewing

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As mentioned, SS Grimlock was originally planned to have an actual transforming Wheelie, rather then what we got. Cost meant that that Wheelie had to be cut, so they instead did the little mini figure that, no one ended up liking. My theory is the Exo-suit is the same, they knew from Grimlock that they couldnt do it, so they went with another Mini-figure; due to how production tends to go; they very likely wouldn't know of the dislike for Wheelie til after Slag had been finished and set off for production. Hasbro's teams are ususally 2 or 3 waves ahead, so a decision that gets made usually won't get fan feedback, which they do care about, until long after the product is ready to ship.

But SS Grimlock's wave and SS Wheelie's wave are two different waves with two different budgets. And SS Wheelie's wave doesn't effect Legacy Metroplex's wave. It's not a case of 'they did this character so now they have to not do this thing' SS and Generations are two different lines, and each wave has its own budget. They've got to figure out the best way to make the figure work within that budget. Their desire to make Cyb Metroplex actually look more cohesive in his modes meant that they likely had to budget out Drillbit, becuase I believe this is the first titan class figure to not have some kinda extra transformer figure with it. Another reason I feel like Drillbit will surface eventually, just like all the other guys associated with the titans. Sixgun, Slammer, Brunt, Cog, etc we eventually got them.

And yes, Peacemaker is a very simple g1-esque Targetmaster. It was the only way to have him and still stay in budget; and they felt it was important that he be included. If you don't like it, its not like there aren't plenty of Battlemasters you could give him. Who knows, maybe they'll do a selects release of Targetmasters or something. This team, really does try to do everything they can, even if it means we have to double dipp or wait.
 

Future_Erika

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Wish they could have got peacemaker to mount on pointblank's arm like how targetmasters worked in headmasters(going by the concept art it looks like they wanted to do exactly that)

Cause in this era where every figure has 5mm compatible ports all over there's nothing special about targetmaster partners/bulks(whatever you call the full sized transformer)
 

Sciflyer

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Wheelie is a good example. The original plan got priced out and I'm sure at some point there was no plan to do a proper one, until suddenly there was.
I definitely get your point, it's just that I don't know if proper is the term I'd use to describe him. He's certainly a Wheelie though, and a transforming one at that.
 

Shadewing

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I definitely get your point, it's just that I don't know if proper is the term I'd use to describe him. He's certainly a Wheelie though, and a transforming one at that.
That is why I feel he is almost certainly the Wheelie they planned for Grimlock, because he doesn't feel like a toy that was designed separately, like other core class toys. He feels more simple, like they were trying as hard as possible to get him under a specific budget.
 

Sunstorm

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That is why I feel he is almost certainly the Wheelie they planned for Grimlock, because he doesn't feel like a toy that was designed separately, like other core class toys. He feels more simple, like they were trying as hard as possible to get him under a specific budget.
Wonder what the actual cost between what we got in-pack and what the core version is. Also, I know he was in the movie, and the team was trying to give us as many characters as possible, but thinking back, Daniel wasn't even in the MOJ scene was he? That one makes even less sense to me now. I'd rather they reuse a Pit of Judgement Quint they already had designed and ready.
 

Superomegaprime

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Honestly, that Wheelie & Danial figures were useless, I rather that they given the Dinobots their swords, thou with Grimlock, it would of been nice if they done something to cover the holes on the robot mode arms, those figures have gone into a draw to be forgotten!
 


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