Transformers Legacy toyline

Shadewing

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Citizen
That's pretty much exactly how I feel about the Ark. In an ideal world, we would have gotten a toy that goes from that Ark mode to an Autobot Base playset with no robot mode involved. That's really what I wanted.

I'd be fine with it if they gave him a 3rd base mode. even if a Partformer, and build around Teletran 1/Mainframe. That would probably have bumped him up from a C to a B-
 

Dake

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Citizen
It really ties the Cybertronian sky line together.
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Superomegaprime

Wondering bot
Citizen
Wow. Best Buy has both the Ark and Black Zarak for $104 each?

Tell me I won’t regret buying them.

Ark is best to keep in ship mode, Zarak is pretty cool, but if you can't get DNA upgrade kits for them, then go to www.tfsafari.com to find some upgrades for the figures, of course, that is your choice if you want to buy them.
 

The Phazer

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Citizen
Ark on the otherhand.... Do I regret getting it? ...Not really... but at the same time... I do consider him to be the worst titan. He just does SO much less then any of the others. He's not a bad figure or toy; but just comparing him to all the others (only one I've not handled is Legacy Metroplex) he comes up short. But in a Vaccuum, he's still very much worth at least $100.

I've never really understood this. Ark turns into a pretty convincing spaceship.

That's literally one more thing than Fortress Maximus or Metroplex achieved with their phoned in transformations.
 

Donocropolis

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I've never really understood this. Ark turns into a pretty convincing spaceship.

That's literally one more thing than Fortress Maximus or Metroplex achieved with their phoned in transformations.

It's more the opposite problem. He turns from a great spaceship into a mediocre robot. Not a BAD robot mode, mind you, just not fantastic. And my main problem with him remains that what I really wanted was a base mode. A robot mode for the Ark isn't something I hate, but was never something I needed.

Scorponok, Omega Supreme, and Trypticon all pretty much hit the right combination of great robot modes and fun base modes.

Cybertron Metroplex actually looks pretty fun as well, but he's still to pricey for a character I have no attachment to.
 

The Phazer

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Citizen
Scorponok, Omega Supreme, and Trypticon all pretty much hit the right combination of great robot modes and fun base modes.

I don't disagree with this, but that's why I didn't name them.

Sadly, the truth is that budget cuts have rendered anything as good as Trypticon impossible at this point.
 

The Phazer

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Citizen
With Wave 3 of the deluxes in-hand, wow, these are... not great tbh. The tolerances are pretty awful on all of them, and bad material choices abound.

It is very hard to understand how the factory samples of these got sent back and they were like "cool, ship this." Dead End's tabbing engineering just doesn't work, but it's exacerbated by yet another example of nylon parts coming out 2 - 3% wider than they're supposed to be and the designer not compensating, so his car mode is very hard to peg together and if it does puts a massive amount of pressure on one tiny clip. You'll struggle to find one of these intact in a few years. The main clip in his legs is barely functional due to bad wall thickness and materials.

Skullgrin's weapons feel like taffy, the paint seems like it will never fully cure, and many parts just feel too mushy for the tabs to work.

Crankcase inherits Skids bad roof clips.

Pointblank is a floppy mess.
 

Dake

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Citizen
Yeah - my Dead End's altmode rear does not tab together seamlessly. It's secure - just has a gap all the way through. At least in gauntlet mode it's forced to close up a bit more.
 

Donocropolis

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Citizen
I think Skullgrin has a great robot mode but one of the worst var modes released in years.

Agreed. I love Skullgrin in robot mode, but he's essentially an Action Master. I've transformed him a couple of times, but don't feel the need to ever do so again.

It would have been more forgivable if he had been a Core class like his pretender brothers.
 

Shadewing

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Citizen
It's time to admit that Pretender alt modes weren't so bad.

Honestly, if they'd found something to do with the heads to better conceal them, I think you'd have a lot less complaints over all, as that would remove some of the 'robot folded in half' elements. Becuase I think in general they are fine as 'Cybertronian' alt modes. Simple vehicles that make getting places easier.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

Scream all you like, 'cause we're all mad here
Citizen
Pretender inner robots were very much function over form, but they did the job.

Except for the ones that just turn into blocks and then add on a chunk of kibble from the shell, like Gunrunner. He got boned.
 


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