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LordGigaIce

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Glitch

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The comics wasted them too, Sovereign/Blackrock and Infinitus. Power of the Primes was the trilogy's waste basket.
 

Sabrblade

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The comics wasted them too, Sovereign/Blackrock and Infinitus. Power of the Primes was the trilogy's waste basket.
'Tis what happens when a comic that isn't trying to sell toys is forced to try selling toys, but still tries its darndest to continue not doing that like it had before and after.
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
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'Tis what happens when a comic that isn't trying to sell toys is forced to try selling toys, but still tries its darndest to continue not doing that like it had before and after.
My favourite part about TR's comic run was that just before it started Optimus decapitated Galvatron (things got kinda Bayesque for a moment) and everyone rightfully went "oh ofc Galvatron's coming back as a Headmaster" because he was in the first wave of TR toys and he lost his head right before the TR comic line started.

And then... it just didn't happen. Like the setup was right there. It was perfect, and just didn't happen.

A close second was that they did use Sentinel/Infinitus and Blackrock/Alpha Trion but got weirdly indignant about actually selling the toys in the line.
Sentinel showed up with his old (non-toy) Megatron: Origins body wearing black modular armour over it that vaguely looked like his TR toy but not really (the thing doesn't have any black on it) and Alpha Trion was just normal IDW Alpha Trion without even a hint of his unicorn/lion mode from the toyline.
Only they had Infinitus cut off his head and wear his body so you kinda had some representation of the play pattern only not really because the Alpha Trion body didn't look like the Alpha Trion toy. And then Infinitus gave Alpha Trion's body to Blackrock/Sovereign who then turned into an Alpha Trion head.... for reasons presumably to sell the toy, only it didn't look like toy.

Meanwhile Galvatron was still headless, had a Headmaster toy on the shelf in the line the comic arc was named after, and just stayed dead.

It's almost art in how IDW both did and didn't want to play along at the same time. Like f'in Gollum was writing the comics for four months.

"WE WANTS TO SELL THE TOYS!"
"NO WE HATES IT!"
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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My favorite part of the Thrilling 30 character shilling is when Crosscut gets an intro dump that makes him sound like he'll matter later, then he tells Swerve to answer his comm and never really matters again. He's around, but he never actually does anything of consequence.
 

ZacWilliam1

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Honestly it's a little silly but I miss the 80s Marvel Comic era of toy shilling. Where Transformers and GIJoe books had to near constantly introduce new toys while telling their story.

It was one of those challenges that forced the writer to be more creative to tell stories around it. But also, it just gave those books a certain pace and feel that no modern comics have had because no one is forced to tell stories that way and darn it having grown up on those books I'm nostalgic for that feel.

Like next time someone gets the liscense and starts over I'd love either a book that follows whatever the current Generation releases were religiously or one that goes back and does things in order. A year staring 84 toys, then a year staring 85 toys and so through 1990.

-ZacWilliam, or at least a miniseries with one issue spotlighting characters from each year.
 

lastmaximal

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I do like how it worked the other way around, when Hasbro made toys of a bunch of characters who'd become fan favorites through that era of IDW. Tailgate, Brainstorm, Swerve, Whirl (albeit less MTMTE and more G1)...

I just miss having regular fiction tying in with the toys and bringing things to life in a sense, especially when they get to a point where they influence each other.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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Yeah, and then there's things like Starscream dressing up like his Armada self just because and Jhiaxus copying it but in orange just because.
I did like how Starscream changing bodies got explained as him just being that vain and deciding he needed a glow up. It's the most Starscream way possible to handle it.
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
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Yeah, and then there's things like Starscream dressing up like his Armada self just because and Jhiaxus copying it but in orange just because.
Even that was a miss because Jihaxus wore Starscream's Armada body in orange but... in the comics it was just Starscream's Armada body in orange, but the toy did some remoulding on the wings to change the silhouette of the whole thing.

Honestly it's a little silly but I miss the 80s Marvel Comic era of toy shilling. Where Transformers and GIJoe books had to near constantly introduce new toys while telling their story.
Honestly? I agree.
Like... it's Transformers. If you get the licence to do media... yeah you're gonna have to sell some toys. If you spent the money to get the licence and produce the media thinking you wouldn't have to then you're a bit of an idiot.

I'd rather the creative team embrace that and do their best to handle what is an intrinsic part of the brand than IDW's half hearted attempts that still woefully missed the mark on things.
Like... I get it, IDW had their creative vision and didn't want to compromise that too much to sell toys, but at the same time... look at the licence you're working on, bruv. Ya gonna have to sell some toys, least you can do is make it fun and not come off like you're only doing it because John Hasbro has a gun to your head.

The 80s were a bit heavy handed. I don't want two page spreads of every character just blurting out the Cole's Notes of their personality but I at least admire the spirit of what they tried to do.

I just miss having regular fiction tying in with the toys and bringing things to life in a sense, especially when they get to a point where they influence each other.
Another thing in TR's favour is that they put work in to flesh the fiction out. The packing had blurbs. Not much but it was something. And they had that PDF that gave expanded notes on everyone and even hinted at some stories.

I'm not someone who thinks Hasbro needs to go back to full bios on the packaging- I think there are viable reasons why this doesn't happen much anymore- but I do want some extra effort on their part. Put up a website with some bios. More PDFs. Stuff like that.
 


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