What stupid thing did the GOP say or do this time? Episode 3!

Axaday

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"Universal suffrage is not God's design" is such an amazing phrase.

the Bible says SO MUCH about who should and shouldn't get to vote....
 

NovaSaber

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The whole premise that whatever it does say about the subject would overrule principles like equality is inherently flawed.

But for the record the Bible doesn't even mention democracy, and pretty much assumes monarchy and authoritarianism as the default.
It also says, however, that Christians should accept governments run by non-Christians and not try to establish a theocracy.
 
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Axaday

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The whole premise that whatever it does say about the subject would overrule principles like equality is inherently flawed.

But for the record the Bible doesn't even mention democracy, and pretty much assumes monarchy and authoritarianism as the default.
It also says, however, that Christians should accept governments run by non-Christians and not try to establish a theocracy.

I will not quibble here with anyone about the truth of the Bible, but taking it at its word there are only 2 forms of government with God's full support. In the Old Testament, Moses wrote down the laws God told him and when they came into the land of Israel the followed those laws more or less (less largely) with no central government for several centuries. This is ostensibly what God wanted for them. When they clamored for a king a prophet anointed Saul, but made very clear that it wasn't what God's favorite thing and that they were going to regret it and they did. They would have had no notion of democracy. Nobody was voting.

Democracy may have been known to any of the New Testament writers. Certainly Paul who was a Roman citizen. But I expect it looked a bit like a failed form of government at the time. I'm not sure how much voting was going on at the time. Augustus is Emperor at the beginning of the New Testament. Judea was a province without citizenship and the Roman governor shared power responsibilities with a puppet king and a religious council. The main political ambition of Judeas was apparently to get their own king, because of a prophecy pointing to a future time when Jesus is King.

I got so distracted and am not realizing that I proved the guy's point in name. the Bible certainly doesn't promote universal suffrage. But I am assuming this isn't what he meant, because he isn't advocating monarchy or constitutional anarchy either.
 

Ungnome

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I'll believe it when I see it, but I do hope it turns out to be true.
 

Teufel

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However it turns out, it's kind of baffling Cruz got another run at this. He barely squeaked by last time severely under performing the margins the Republican governor won by the same year. Senator Cornyn won Texas by an almost 10 point margin in 2020. You'd think that would've led to an aggressive intervention this time around saying no thanks, Ted, spend more time with your family, we're going to run literally anyone but you. Especially since it's well documented everyone hates Ted Cruz.
 

Axaday

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It is hard to kick out the incumbent. And people aren't very good at the calculus you are talking about. By and large, Republicans are probably fairly happy with him. He has a lot of influence. He made a decent run at the Presidency once. I don't think most Republican primary voters believe it was Cruz' fault that Beto almost beat him. It was because Beto pretended to be Hispanic, wasn't it? Or a bunch of woke kids?

Republicans are still aghast that Biden could step aside and let Kamala by because it is just such a novel political move. Win or lose, the incumbent is the candidate.
 
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Pocket

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If that other Ohio sheriff's statement wasn't a federal offense, that one sure as hell is.
 

Rhinox

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There's your next GOP presidential candidate, should Trump fail in his attempt at claiming a third term.
Walters has positioned himself as the next big personality and will undoubtedly use that platform to launch a national campaign for office. That's all this is, show for the next job.
 

Ungnome

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Please, with any sanity left in the supreme court realize that this is a clear violation of the Establishment clause. Also it's time for the Satanic Temple to leap into action. They can't teach JUST the Bible. The Satanic Bible, the Vedas, the Koran. etc, would all have to be done as well. Heck, throw the Ferengi Rules of Aquisition in the pile as well while we are at it(it's much closer to what the Republican politicians seem to believe, according to their actions anyway).
 

Rhinox

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He hasn't won yet in court. But that's not the point. The point is to create an image of a "christian warrior' going out and fighting the heathen hordes for them. That's the thing that Trump nailed and this guy gets. He's "their guy". Regardless of law, regardless of principle, he's pushing for "them".

Please note the quotes because it's all bullshit. They're only for themselves and all of this is a cynical manipulation of the weak minded
 

Axaday

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There's your next GOP presidential candidate, should Trump fail in his attempt at claiming a third term.
Walters has positioned himself as the next big personality and will undoubtedly use that platform to launch a national campaign for office. That's all this is, show for the next job.
He doesn't strike me as a big personality. I think he'd like to be Secretary of Education. But is that job already named? I can't recall seeing it. People were pretty sure when he said Oklahoma needs to buy hundred of thousands of Bibles with the Constitution in them (oddly rare??), it was his payment for the post.
 

Rhinox

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Trump's stated plan is to abolish the department of education. No secretary needed if the department no longer exists.
And personality aside, this is clearly a push for a national office. But, much like Ron "Paint Drying" Desantis, he doesn't have much hope if he doesn't have some cultural issue to ride on.
 


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