Police behaving badly

Nevermore

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He shot an unarmed man who was receiving treatment in an emergency room in the head, and he wasn't put behind bars afterwards? Truly, the police is not above the law, the police is the law, Judge Dredd style.
 

KidTDragon

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Is "baptized" a euphemism for some sexual act, or did he really pour some water on her and cast a spell after raping her?
 

TrnsfrmGod

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Is "baptized" a euphemism for some sexual act, or did he really pour some water on her and cast a spell after raping her?
I was wondering that myself.
I'd be less concerned if it wasn't in quotation marks... :-/

EDIT: https://religionnews.com/2022/04/14...then-he-baptized-her-first-amendment-lawsuit/
According to this, it was an actual baptism, in a lake, which in which she participated, in lieu of getting arrested.

I'm slightly less disgusted (and thankful) that it wasn't a euphemism, but....dang that's still 17 kinds of messed up.
 
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PrimalxConvoy

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"...Police stood by for upwards of 40 minutes after a gunman stormed into an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, on Tuesday and killed 19 children and two teachers in a classroom, according to a new report... ...“Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything like they are supposed to,” said Javier Cazares. “More could have been done.” Cazares lost his fourth grade daughter, Jacklyn Cazares, in the attack. “They were unprepared,” he said...

(Source: - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...o-stop-texas-school-shooter-report/ar-AAXJMR3 )

I can't comment upon this as I don't know if the police were following protocol or not. Usually, we wouldn't return to a burning building and perhaps the police were trying their best to avoid anyone else from getting shot? As for attacking the gunman:

...So even if you don’t plan on carrying a firearm yourself, commit to the idea that if you absolutely have to (and, again, we’re talking last resort here), you’ll attack an active shooter quickly and devastatingly...

(Source: - https://www.artofmanliness.com/skills/manly-know-how/what-to-do-in-an-active-shooter-situation/ )

Even this source only suggests attacking the gunman if it was a LAST RESORT.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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Police in the US are there to protect the law, not the people. The problem is that they're very very bad at both.
 

Cyoti

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More like to protect themselves. We have seen plenty of times that they don't care about the law.
 

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PrimalxConvoy

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Reports quoting eyewitnesses have said police were urged to charge into the building immediately, with one suggesting he considered doing so himself as he became frustrated.

Mr Escalon - a Ranger, and spokesman for the Texas Department of Public Safety - said that such reports were not confirmed. He said that during the time officers were outside the school, they were calling in reinforcement and "also evacuating students, teachers". "An hour later US Border Patrol tactical teams arrive, they make entry and shoot and kill the suspect," he added. "Immediately....it turns into a rescue operation."

(Source:- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61600914 )
 

CoffeeHorse

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This is just what the police do for some reason. Someone got shot outside my high school in my freshman year, and we spent the next five hours under our desks while police stood outside staring at their feet. Fortunately the guy didn't enter the school to continue shooting or take hostages, but the police didn't know that. The guy vanished and they had no clue what direction he went. He totally could have run into the school but it never occurred to them to take a look and see if we were okay in there.
 

PrimalxConvoy

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So what were they resorting to before that besides wasting essential time?

Due diligence and/or the avoidance of untrained people possibly risking death by attempting to attack an unknown assailant with an unknown amount of and types of weapons? Police are also in a lose-lose situation in some cases where a rapid response might be seen as more dangerous than a delayed one:

- https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2014/12/how_police_are_trained_to_deal.html

Here's an interesting article about the challenges American police officers have faced when dealing with armed (terrorist) incidents, which might explain why some forces are more cautious than the public might want. It even explains why the first responder search teams didn't "help" wounded or frightened victims inside the building(s) :

- https://ctc.westpoint.edu/lessons-l...san-bernardino-and-orlando-terrorist-attacks/
 

Plutoniumboss

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Due diligence and/or the avoidance of untrained people possibly risking death by attempting to attack an unknown assailant with an unknown amount of and types of weapons? Police are also in a lose-lose situation in some cases where a rapid response might be seen as more dangerous than a delayed one:

- https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2014/12/how_police_are_trained_to_deal.html

Here's an interesting article about the challenges American police officers have faced when dealing with armed (terrorist) incidents, which might explain why some forces are more cautious than the public might want. It even explains why the first responder search teams didn't "help" wounded or frightened victims inside the building(s) :

- https://ctc.westpoint.edu/lessons-l...san-bernardino-and-orlando-terrorist-attacks/
I'm fairly certain by the time you hit the 45 minute mark of being on scene, the risk of your response being seen as any kind of rapid has become negligible. As for both of the links, they seem to be simply restating the problem. The first people on the scene are not trained to handle these situations, and the current status quo is to train them to do nothing until somebody else arrives. If our first responders lack the training to respond, what reason is there not to give them this training?
 

PrimalxConvoy

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I'm fairly certain by the time you hit the 45 minute mark of being on scene, the risk of your response being seen as any kind of rapid has become negligible. As for both of the links, they seem to be simply restating the problem. The first people on the scene are not trained to handle these situations, and the current status quo is to train them to do nothing until somebody else arrives. If our first responders lack the training to respond, what reason is there not to give them this training?

It seems the police might actually have NOT followed procedures (contrary to my previous statement) :

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"...The apparent delay in entering the building deviates from guidance that became standard police practice after the 1999 Columbine High School massacre, which states that the first officers on the scene should do whatever they can to stop an attack without waiting for backup..."

(Source: - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61604652 )

And there I was, ready to give the American police the benefit of the doubt.

In other news, the British police stripped-searched an innocent mixed-race girl with special needs recently.

(Please note that the details have been hidden behind spoiler tags, due to the possibly upsetting and NSFW reporting of the genital area) :

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...The revelation that a black schoolgirl was strip-searched by police at school in Hackney, east London, after teachers claimed that they smelt marijuana on her, is shocking. But the details of the search, the indignities inflicted on a 15-year-old girl, are truly distasteful.

She was made to strip naked, to spread her legs, to use her hands to spread her buttock cheeks and then to cough. She was menstruating. According to family members, the police insisted that she take off the bloody pad and would not let her go to the toilet to clean up. Then they made her reuse the same pad.

No drugs were found, yet the rumour spread around the school that this perfectly innocent girl was a drug dealer. Her mother told the local child safeguarding review that the experience had left her daughter traumatised...

(Source: - https://www.theguardian.com/comment...black-girl-school-east-london-racism-misogyny )

Then again, even the American police have no qualms arresting, screaming in the face of (or even beating) innocent (black) children:
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