I always figured Data was just waiting until he had a more sure-fire way to prevent the breakdown before he tried again.
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I always figured Data was just waiting until he had a more sure-fire way to prevent the breakdown before he tried again.
Since this didn't get addressed yet, Amanda is his wife and Spock's mother.
There are a lot of Q in the TNG and Voyager series, and they all have separate actors. Quinn is one you will meet in Voyager.
Q shows an immense amount of character growth here. I love his celebration when he gets his powers back and his gift to Data was great.
To be fair, this is an epic episode that will have consequences later on. Picard buying time for the C on the weapons station while the ship was burning around him was an epic moment.
As mentioned, the process to create a Soong Android is so complex that even Soong himself had numerous failed attempts. Data on his first, and only, attempt made Lal that survived for several days before malfunctioning. I would imagine that Data doesn't want to create another child for it to die. So I imagine that he spent more time researching it and thinking of ways to improve the child's viability, but never got it to a point where he felt that he could try again.
Yeah, he just takes the blame in order for the Klingons not to go into a civil war. I am sure that worked out well for him.
Vash is the lady from DS9 but not from Lower Decks. And I think that we all cheered Picard on at the time. You have to remember, Kirk was a by the book nerd that happened to get the ladies every now and then. Picard was the star athlete that almost got himself and his best friend killed in a shuttle accident after they stole the shuttle to go get some ladies. Its just that Picard is much older than Kirk was in TOS, so he has calmed down some by the time he gets put ion charge of the Federation flagship.
Barclay is a series regular, and even shows up on Voyager and the TNG films. Expect to see more of him. He is a great character with legitimate mental issues that stay with him for the rest of his life. Also, he was famous for being a main character on the A Team at this point.
Data can't kill a life form in cold blood. The thing is that it's part of Data becoming more human in that he did fire the weapon, even if he didn't realize it. It wasn't an emotional response but the closest he has come to one since Q made him laugh.
Sarek is Spock's father, and Amanda is Spock's mother. This was first revealed in a TOS episode that this kind of rips off.
Yeah I love that scene. It's so great! We also see more of Riker and Troi together. The characters kind of act like that they have a Friends with Benefits situation going on.
Shelby is an ambitious officer that is more than capable of backing up her ambition. She, just like everyone else, assumed that Riker was going to take the Captain's chair elsewhere. I won't say anything about her death though.
Okay, now you have to take a 4 month break to see the continuation just like we did when that episode first aired.
Seriously that was our Who shot JR moment. There is a story that Patrik Stewart was driving around in his convertible in LA in September that year. He pulls up to a red light and this van pulls up next to him with a family in it. He can see them notice him, and recognize him, and start to talk among themselves. He gives them a gentlemanly wave, and right as the light turns green, the dad rolls down the window and yells out, "YOU RUINED OUR SUMMER!" and drives off.
Specifically, Sarek's relationship, or lack thereof, with Spock was probably his greatest regret.
While they did seem to reconcile somewhat in the period spanning TOS to The Voyage Home, even then Sarek never really developed a genuine understanding of Spock or his point of view. It's pretty obvious in their final on-screen exchange in The Voyage Home (they never interacted in The Undiscovered Country, despite Sarek appearing in the film).
Sarek: As I recall, I opposed your enlistment in Starfleet. It is possible that judgment was incorrect. Your associates are people of good character.
Spock: They are my friends.
Sarek: .... yes, of course.
Sarek had come to respect Spock's career choice and accept it as worthwhile, but they seemingly never made up for that lost time and (according to TNG, anyway) had another falling out at some point in the future. They ended up never mind melding, which is supposedly very unusual for a father and son.
Mark Leonard does an amazing job playing Sarek for all those years. I love it when he actually acts like a dad.
T'Lar: Sarek, child of Skon, child of Solkar, the body of your son breathes still. What is your wish?
Sarek: I ask for fal-tor-pan, the refusion.
T'Lar: What you seek has not done since ages past, and then only in legend. Your request is not logical.
Sarek: Forgive me, T’Lar. My logic is uncertain where my son is concerned.
I also like in the Kelvin timeline when he explains to Spock why he married Amanda, a human, and it was because he loved her.
Like Vulcans have extreme emotions, and to see Sarek open up those emotions is always great.
T'Lar: Sarek, child of Skon, child of Solkar, the body of your son breathes still. What is your wish?
Sarek: I ask for fal-tor-pan, the refusion.
T'Lar: What you seek has not done since ages past, and then only in legend. Your request is not logical.
Sarek: Forgive me, T’Lar. My logic is uncertain where my son is concerned.
I also like in the Kelvin timeline when he explains to Spock why he married Amanda, a human, and it was because he loved her.
Like Vulcans have extreme emotions, and to see Sarek open up those emotions is always great.
Yeah, I think that people misunderstand Vulcans and assume that they are emotionless, robot-like logicians. The fiction actually portrays them as extremely emotional beings that, as a society, do their absolute best to keep their feelings bottled up and behave in a completely logical manner through strict mental discipline.
Or, since Enterprise, extremely petty beings who, as a society, take all communication as an opportunity to neg each other into oblivion, and would have long been extinct as a species if not for their even deeper dedication to tradition and appearances, which has allowed them to develop ritualized, gamified versions of just mercilessly humiliating each other instead of doing it in the streets until they murdered each other. Only the ones in Starfleet actually have a robotic dedication to practical necessity (which generally just makes them better at everything than humans are with no obvious drawbacks.)
Watched another chunk. First though, I didn't pick up that Sarek was Spock's father. I got it in my head that Picard has HIS own emotions go out of control and he was spouting his own secrets and stuff. I figure that a Mind Meld was just mind reading and the non Vulcan doesn't actually receive anything, since they're non Vulcan. My bad. So it's no wonder Sarek got a title episode to himself, since he's important. And Amanda is Winona Ryder from the Kelvin universe, haha.
So no more Data offspring. Sad. But ok.
That story about Patrick Stewart ruining that family's summer for waiting was hilarious!
401 Best of Both Worlds 2, ooooh I thought Shelby would die, haha. Well, whatever on her. I'm sure Picard's Borg look is popular or something, haha.
402 Family, ugh, drama. Loved Worf's human parents being European folks. They're so sweet.
403 Brothers, Lore! So he's running around with emotions now and malfunctioning? Crazy. I kinda thought that the reveal of Data's creator being alive meant sooooome sort of reveal that he's related to Khan. Like, isn't the name the same? Ish?
405 Remember Me, I saw a video saying that Boimler shouting Remember Me! while being sucked into the time portal in Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks crossover is a reference to this ep. A bit creepy ep but I realized that I like Ship in a Bottle eps, it is mostly when I liked the brainiacs at work. I wasn't too wild about Beverly Crusher's side of things. I liked the Geordi, Data, even Wesley crunching info then Picard, Riker making all the hard decisions. Oh, cool on bringing that Traveler back. But I thought he 'died' when he disappeared. How'd they know how to contact him?
407 Reunion, yeeeeah Worf should have used protection, hahaha. Is this the last time Alexander will be seen in Next Gen? He's all grown up in DS9.
Very sorry to have Worf's lady die but c'moooon! She could have at least been shown to have defended herself better, like wounded Duras enough that when Worf kills him, it would be also be attributed to her as well.
Since I saw DS9 first and going at this backwards, the actual resolution to Worf's family name being disgraced is resolved by... Word being absorbed into another Klingon family? His brother Kurn had his mind wiped in DS9 so he can given to another family as well. I can't remember anymore. But if so, Mogh the dad is still considered a traitor.
So no more Data offspring. Sad. But ok.
That story about Patrick Stewart ruining that family's summer for waiting was hilarious!
401 Best of Both Worlds 2, ooooh I thought Shelby would die, haha. Well, whatever on her. I'm sure Picard's Borg look is popular or something, haha.
402 Family, ugh, drama. Loved Worf's human parents being European folks. They're so sweet.
403 Brothers, Lore! So he's running around with emotions now and malfunctioning? Crazy. I kinda thought that the reveal of Data's creator being alive meant sooooome sort of reveal that he's related to Khan. Like, isn't the name the same? Ish?
405 Remember Me, I saw a video saying that Boimler shouting Remember Me! while being sucked into the time portal in Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks crossover is a reference to this ep. A bit creepy ep but I realized that I like Ship in a Bottle eps, it is mostly when I liked the brainiacs at work. I wasn't too wild about Beverly Crusher's side of things. I liked the Geordi, Data, even Wesley crunching info then Picard, Riker making all the hard decisions. Oh, cool on bringing that Traveler back. But I thought he 'died' when he disappeared. How'd they know how to contact him?
407 Reunion, yeeeeah Worf should have used protection, hahaha. Is this the last time Alexander will be seen in Next Gen? He's all grown up in DS9.
Very sorry to have Worf's lady die but c'moooon! She could have at least been shown to have defended herself better, like wounded Duras enough that when Worf kills him, it would be also be attributed to her as well.
Since I saw DS9 first and going at this backwards, the actual resolution to Worf's family name being disgraced is resolved by... Word being absorbed into another Klingon family? His brother Kurn had his mind wiped in DS9 so he can given to another family as well. I can't remember anymore. But if so, Mogh the dad is still considered a traitor.
I'm just putting a pin in these, like a little corkboard, for if you do end up watching all three seasons of Picard.
There is some weird unclear history with Gene Roddenberry and the Noonien Singh / Soong name, though, and they don't seem to have been intended to be connected in any way originally. However, Enterprise later introduced the first of Dr. Soong's many Spiner-portrayed relatives, a great-grandfather, and connected him with the augments' legacy, so the "Noonian" or "Noonien" probably came from Khan. SNW complicates that by making it such that Noonien-Singh was a hyphenated last name before Khan ever had it, which just makes naming someone after just one of the surnames weird and the definitely coincidental "Soong" all the weirder. If we learn that Soong's middle name was Singh, I quit the franchise.
She shows up on Lower Decks, so I thought that you would know that she survives. She is at the party that is too exclusive for the Cerritos to join. And Borg Cosplay is a extremely popular to this day.
First of all, this is literally my favorite episode of TNG and perhaps my favorite of all Star Trek.
Picard goes back home to France and honestly debates leaving Star Fleet, and even finds a friend that could use him for a project that he is interested in. He legitimately needs to work through his issues with what has just happened to him. His confrontation with his older brother Robert, where Picard finally just breaks down and talks about what he just endured, and his brother being the only one to be able to reassure him that he is just a Human being after all. That no one could have stopped the Borg from controlling them. Then the next scene with them both really drunk and covered in mud was great! Their explanation to Robert's wife is hilarious. Plus his brother's family is truly heart warming and I hate that we don't get to see them again, especially after Robert's character growth at the end.
Worf's parents give us some great stories about Worf. One thing to note is that his adoptive dad was the Chief of the ship that came to the outpost's rescue. That he found Worf in the wreckage, and he adopted him on the spot. It's also nice that they are still concerned that Worf is making friends. Also, that was another occurrence where the Federation came to the aid of the Klingons when they were attacked by the treacherous Romulans, and it helped set Federation and Klingon on the path to allies that we see in TNG and DS9.
Weasley getting to see his dad's sole recorded Message for him was a great moment for the character, but overall not as involved with the plot as much as Picard's storyline was.
Similar sounding name, but they aren't related directly. You will see when you watch newer episodes that the Soong family is involved with the Eugentics programs. Lore's return was great, and I loved Data's Password From Hell in this episode. I don't like that Lore gets away with the emotion chip made for Data, but you will see Lore again. I did like the conversations that we got between Soong, Data and Lore in this episode, and how Lore gets to vent to his dad about what happened to him.
The Traveller has been watching Wesley ever since their first encounter. Wesley is a bit different and special, and the Traveller will show up again. Eventually you will find out more in Picard S2. Back to the episode, this is a great one! Crusher gets to do something, and the crazyiness of the plot really shows how great she is at handling all of this.
Alexander is in the show a lot. For a while he will live with Worf's parents, but eventually joins Worf on the Enterprise.
Duras, is a formidable fighter though. As much as he is a dishonorable punk that comes from a long line of dishonorable punks, he is competent fighter and in a strong enough house to be consider for Chancelor. Him showing up there to fight an unarmed woman, it's not surprising that she stood little chance. Worf's flat out murder of Duras was great though. I loved how even on Duras' own ship, they wouldn't stop or even interfere with the fight once Worf claimed to be her mate.
We haven't got to the resolution of Mogh and his family's disacomadation. It does take place in TNG though, and gives us some great episodes. As a reminder of DS9, Worf and his family were Dishonored in DS9 again because Worf refused to join the war against the Cardassians when the Klingons were accusing them of being led by Changlings. Worf saw the war as dishonorable, and Gowron dishonored his house, thus his brother Kurn was affected and that is why he shows up on DS9. Worf eventually proves to Gowron that the Changlings were behind the Klingons going to war. Gowron keeps Worf's family dishonored then, because Worf could have, and should have killed him. After finding and freeing the real Martok, Martok makes Worf his second in command on his ship. Worf gets Martok over his PTSD by losing in a challenge to him, which makes Martok into his old self again. Knowing what Worf did, he offers to let Worf join his house as his brother. Worf accepts and eventually his son Alexander joins the Martok house as well.
Shelby was a great double fakeout. She's introduced and you're like "oh, I see, they're trying to make us think Riker is leaving and she's going to be his replacement," and then the plot of the episode happens and you realize she's actually the potential replacement for Riker when Picard is gone.
Shelby was in that swanky Captain's party in Lower Decks? I'd prefer to see other Trek characters in LD form.
Yeeeah, I wasn't wild about the Family ep. Different strokes, oh well.
The Traveler returns again? So odd.
I've forgotten the details on Worf's new dishonor from DS9 so thanks for the refresher.
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Watched another small chunk. Data's day is prooooobably my fave ep, except for one small detail.
409 Final Mission, Wesley is gone already? Now that I saw practically have the show, he wasn't that bad. He just had too much focus in the first season and was almost too good or whatever. I think I would have been fine with him if he stayed. I mean, I ended up like Nog a ton in DS9 after he was in training.
411 Data's Day, so this is were Keiko first appeared. Came out of nowhere. But that's not important. Data's cat suddenly coming out of the blue is the important thing! Like, we could have had a whole episode devoted to Data deciding to get a cat! C'mon! I want to see that ep! What's his history? They could have put that cat in the ep where Data meets his creator, like adopting him after the guy died, c'moooon! I want more of the cat! Also love the dancing lesson, haha
412 The Wounded, cool to see Cardassians for the first time. O'Brien has a history with them too.
I'm one ep away from the halfway point but I don't want to stop at a 13th ep, haha.
(I'm going to look up more info on Data's cat! )
Edit - oh gods, I should NOT have looked more info on Spot! Spoiled myself on several stuff. Data actually dies? But he comes back? Whaaa?
Yeeeah, I wasn't wild about the Family ep. Different strokes, oh well.
The Traveler returns again? So odd.
I've forgotten the details on Worf's new dishonor from DS9 so thanks for the refresher.
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Watched another small chunk. Data's day is prooooobably my fave ep, except for one small detail.
409 Final Mission, Wesley is gone already? Now that I saw practically have the show, he wasn't that bad. He just had too much focus in the first season and was almost too good or whatever. I think I would have been fine with him if he stayed. I mean, I ended up like Nog a ton in DS9 after he was in training.
411 Data's Day, so this is were Keiko first appeared. Came out of nowhere. But that's not important. Data's cat suddenly coming out of the blue is the important thing! Like, we could have had a whole episode devoted to Data deciding to get a cat! C'mon! I want to see that ep! What's his history? They could have put that cat in the ep where Data meets his creator, like adopting him after the guy died, c'moooon! I want more of the cat! Also love the dancing lesson, haha
412 The Wounded, cool to see Cardassians for the first time. O'Brien has a history with them too.
I'm one ep away from the halfway point but I don't want to stop at a 13th ep, haha.
(I'm going to look up more info on Data's cat! )
Edit - oh gods, I should NOT have looked more info on Spot! Spoiled myself on several stuff. Data actually dies? But he comes back? Whaaa?
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Final Mission is a good send off for Wesley. Him and Picard do get a lot closer by the end of it. Wesley does pop up a bit though in future episodes.
Spot is one of the most important things to Data. Liek all good cats, he teaches Data how to love. Sadly, there is no back story on how Data got him, nor is there anything that says what happened to him after the end of the first TNG film. We just know that he has died 20 something years later.
The crazy thing about this episode was that Maxwell was right. He was a total loose cannon but he was right. O'brien really shines in this episode too. I love his vbackstory as a guy from a weathly family that ran off and enlisted to spite his father's wishes.
If you want to know we can answer, but I would advise to just keep watching. Several characters will die over these series, but just enjoy the episodes.
Recognizing that novels aren't canon (and, indeed, the novels in question are even less canon now than they used to be) I like the idea that Worf adopted Spot after Data's passing.
Spot would be quite old by that point though. She would be around 11 or 12 years old. She was in Nemesis so she was still around back then. I am betting that Troi and Riker took Spot to the Titan or Geordi kept her on the Enterprise with him.
The idea in the novels comes from a cut scene in Nemesis itself. Warning: Atrocious video quality.
I wish that scene was in the movie. Those two would be the ones who'd do that characterwise... as much as Picard seasons 1 and 2 tried to say how best of buds Picard and Data were... nah, these are the guys.
Picard and Data had more of the Mentorship type friendship, Geordi and Data were besties to use a modern term.
Yeah, Maxwell from the Wounded WAS correct and the Cardassians WERE planning war stuff! I don't get why Picard said he didn't want to investigate cuz there would be more trouble or whatever. Weird for him.
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Anyhow, HUGE chunk! Like, I'm over a season of eps already since I'm at s5! I've forgotten details of stuff I wanted to note, darn!
413 Devil's Due - that evil lady was sacrificing her con just cuz she was lusting for Picard, OMQ! haha
414 Clues - it was a little scary there, when Data was going against the crew trying to get their memories back. Like he was evil. Scary. Shouldn't we encounter these super power aliens again?
415 First Contact - luv this episode! Crazy that the poor world didn't advance but awesome that the lady went into space with the crew. Also, daring of that the nurse to seriously pressure alien sex from Riker, haha!
416 Galaxy's Child - Leah Brahms was married? Really. So dumb for computer not to mention it. Also for Geordi not to know.
417 Night Terrors - had scary moments, like the corpses that sit up with Beverly. What happened to the Betazed who was still alive? Who were the other aliens?
418 Identity Crisis - another creepy ep. Too bad the other crew members couldn't be saved.
--- at this point, it's so cool to have a whole bunch of interesting eps!
419 Nth Degree - sad for Barclay to lose his intelligence. Luv the laser lights on his control chair. That was a cool effect on his head.
420 Qpid - dumb Robin Hood stuff and I guessed that this lead into the DS9 ep where Vash was with Q. Picard didn't have another fling with her?
421 Drumhead - seems to be a number of trial type eps, actually.
422 Half a Life - that new love of Troi's mom is the voice of Jumba from Lilo and Stitch! Sad that they didn't change the planet's auto death policy.
423 Host - Trill!!! Beverly had sex with Riker via symbiont! She's not into women! Cool to see where Jadzia concept came from.
424 Mind's Eye - thriller plot that we've seen before.
425 In Theory - Ugh, I hate that Data has no reason to be interested in that throwaway lady who was using him as a rebound. He had no reason to follow up on being her boyfriend. I feel the same way about Isaac and Dr Finn in Orville. While I love how it went, I feel that there is no reason for Isaac to want to be in a relationship. Same with Data. I don't think Isaac ever said he wanted to pursue the relationship either. I think both Isaac and Data were just responding to humans asking him to be in one, Ala as an order. Blurg.
426 Redemption part 1 - honestly, I wasn't wild about the Klingon stuff.
Urgh, too long already. Next post.
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Anyhow, HUGE chunk! Like, I'm over a season of eps already since I'm at s5! I've forgotten details of stuff I wanted to note, darn!
413 Devil's Due - that evil lady was sacrificing her con just cuz she was lusting for Picard, OMQ! haha
414 Clues - it was a little scary there, when Data was going against the crew trying to get their memories back. Like he was evil. Scary. Shouldn't we encounter these super power aliens again?
415 First Contact - luv this episode! Crazy that the poor world didn't advance but awesome that the lady went into space with the crew. Also, daring of that the nurse to seriously pressure alien sex from Riker, haha!
416 Galaxy's Child - Leah Brahms was married? Really. So dumb for computer not to mention it. Also for Geordi not to know.
417 Night Terrors - had scary moments, like the corpses that sit up with Beverly. What happened to the Betazed who was still alive? Who were the other aliens?
418 Identity Crisis - another creepy ep. Too bad the other crew members couldn't be saved.
--- at this point, it's so cool to have a whole bunch of interesting eps!
419 Nth Degree - sad for Barclay to lose his intelligence. Luv the laser lights on his control chair. That was a cool effect on his head.
420 Qpid - dumb Robin Hood stuff and I guessed that this lead into the DS9 ep where Vash was with Q. Picard didn't have another fling with her?
421 Drumhead - seems to be a number of trial type eps, actually.
422 Half a Life - that new love of Troi's mom is the voice of Jumba from Lilo and Stitch! Sad that they didn't change the planet's auto death policy.
423 Host - Trill!!! Beverly had sex with Riker via symbiont! She's not into women! Cool to see where Jadzia concept came from.
424 Mind's Eye - thriller plot that we've seen before.
425 In Theory - Ugh, I hate that Data has no reason to be interested in that throwaway lady who was using him as a rebound. He had no reason to follow up on being her boyfriend. I feel the same way about Isaac and Dr Finn in Orville. While I love how it went, I feel that there is no reason for Isaac to want to be in a relationship. Same with Data. I don't think Isaac ever said he wanted to pursue the relationship either. I think both Isaac and Data were just responding to humans asking him to be in one, Ala as an order. Blurg.
426 Redemption part 1 - honestly, I wasn't wild about the Klingon stuff.
Urgh, too long already. Next post.
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