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I didn’t like when unofficial combiners did the giant robot frame thing and I’m not liking it here. If this is how they do future combiners, I’m probably out.
except combaticons. I like those guys better as individuals anyway.
except combaticons. I like those guys better as individuals anyway.
If they do the Combaticons like this, I will at the very least get Swindle; escpially if he is cartoon accurate as we've yet to really have a g1 cartoon accurate Swindle toy.
It's very likely to continue now that fully three combiners have set the pattern. And a weapons trailer would make sense for Onslaught, and they could argue a repair bay thing for Hot Spot. That they have Silverbolt an entire extra jet ass and didn't blink suggests there's no stopping point. But lord, I'm already tired of the gimmick.
I will say it's nice to be getting much less mold sharing/compromise than CW saw (so far I think Breakdown was the only one who really got compromised; not sure how it shakes out for the Aerialbots).
And the proportions on this frame-based Superion do look much better than the weedier CW one, and I love seeing that more Concorde-y wing shape. Idk, I may get a Silverbolt and leave the combined mode bare of jets lol. Maybe I'll do that with Motormaster too.
I will say it's nice to be getting much less mold sharing/compromise than CW saw (so far I think Breakdown was the only one who really got compromised; not sure how it shakes out for the Aerialbots).
And the proportions on this frame-based Superion do look much better than the weedier CW one, and I love seeing that more Concorde-y wing shape. Idk, I may get a Silverbolt and leave the combined mode bare of jets lol. Maybe I'll do that with Motormaster too.
I want to see them give a two-headed dragon a trailer.
Or a turtle...
Monstructor but the shells are formed from combiner kibble.
His kibble will in fact be a slightly bigger turtle that he stands on.
Now that's the most creative idea yet.
I'll be happy if the Bruticus frame is used to give Blast Off a bigger vehicle mode.
Commander class Blast Off: Giant shuttle disassembles to reveal smaller shuttle and Bruticus torso, which would even also be more toon.
That'd be funny as hell.
That'd be funny as hell.
I have to admit, while I'm generally indifferent to the frame idea, I'm really intrigued by what further add-ons will entail.
Like, how far does this thing go, y'know?
I'm hoping that the Technobots get something awesome. Maybe some sort of trailer or carrier that moves Scattershot around in cannon mode.
Like, how far does this thing go, y'know?
I'm hoping that the Technobots get something awesome. Maybe some sort of trailer or carrier that moves Scattershot around in cannon mode.
I'd much rather they just make one good robot that can do robot and torso -- and with the alt modes getting less and less obligated to look like slecific Earth vehicles they have more freedom to fudge here and there -- rather than keep using this crutch. But again I think this ship has largely sailed. And even if they did start, by that point I'd be annoyed that they waited so long TO start.
He'll have two heads AND two asses.
Aside from combiner-mode stability, I can appreciate one thing about the frame approach. Combiners have always included mass shifting as a basic tenant of what they are. In virtually every media where they exist, the combiners are larger than simply piling their component bots on top of each other. For all the things I don't like about the frame approach, it's the one time any toys of them have managed to reflect that aspect of their media portrayal. The Legacy/AotP/SS86 guys all get to have individual bots that scale nicely with the smaller post-PWT bots, and yet still manage to form CW-sized combiners. I actually do really appreciate that.
Having said that, I definitely am curious to see how it will work going forward. I had taken it for granted that Superion would be just like Menasor, and that Devastator would have some sort of frame, albeit not to the same extent as the other two. Devastator has always been kibble-heavy, with his forearms and everything between his waist and knees not really being visibly linked to any of the members. As much as everyone was quick to call Menasor a special case, Superion's cartoon model really wasn't handled much differently. I could easily see Onslaught becoming just the cab of his truck mode, and I could see Hot Spot adopting a Fire Convoy split, where he is also just the cab section. If they continue past season 2, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Silverbolt approach used on Scattershot.
How will they handle the limbs, though? Aside from Superion and Menasor, most combiners much more visibly have all their limbs fully unique, with different colors and visible details like Brawl's tank turret. I'm really curious to see how they handle Bruticus. Whatever they do there, I could imagine them maybe using the same approach for Defensor, and then calling it quits on any more combiners for a while. I'll be REALLY disappointed if that turns out to be accurate, since I still really want a full-sized Monstructor, and I can't see that happening at the smaller Titan price point.
Having said that, I definitely am curious to see how it will work going forward. I had taken it for granted that Superion would be just like Menasor, and that Devastator would have some sort of frame, albeit not to the same extent as the other two. Devastator has always been kibble-heavy, with his forearms and everything between his waist and knees not really being visibly linked to any of the members. As much as everyone was quick to call Menasor a special case, Superion's cartoon model really wasn't handled much differently. I could easily see Onslaught becoming just the cab of his truck mode, and I could see Hot Spot adopting a Fire Convoy split, where he is also just the cab section. If they continue past season 2, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Silverbolt approach used on Scattershot.
How will they handle the limbs, though? Aside from Superion and Menasor, most combiners much more visibly have all their limbs fully unique, with different colors and visible details like Brawl's tank turret. I'm really curious to see how they handle Bruticus. Whatever they do there, I could imagine them maybe using the same approach for Defensor, and then calling it quits on any more combiners for a while. I'll be REALLY disappointed if that turns out to be accurate, since I still really want a full-sized Monstructor, and I can't see that happening at the smaller Titan price point.
Really, they ought to adopt the Power Suit combiner system from GoBots, or something along those lines. Individual armor for each of the limb Bots that standardizes the combiner limbs without needing to standardize the Bots themselves seems like exactly what the current system needs.
Also, more GoBots is always* a good thing.
*(when they aren't being killed for laughs)
Also, more GoBots is always* a good thing.
*(when they aren't being killed for laughs)
Probably like the unofficial toys using the same design philosophy. The individual robots slot into giant robot arms with details simulating an enlarged version of their vehicle modes. If not, just the big robots wearing the smaller robots again.
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I haven't canceled my preorders for the first two yet, but I'm on the fence. Reviews will make or break it for me.