The Twit destroying Twitter is a Twaitor

Anonymous X

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That might not be a bad idea, honestly. Only four months after voting out the previous ruling party in a landslide, and zero months after seeing proof that the current ruling party is exactly the same, maybe they'll take a hint and vote for someone else for a damn change.
Yeah, well, Starmer is appalling, but I also don’t want the far-right Reform party getting into power, thank you very much.
 

Anonymous X

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Judging by the political polling, the only ones to make any gains from a UK election would be the previous ruling party, so I'm not convinced anyone has learned anything.
Well, yeah. If there was an early GE, there are only two possible outcomes: 1.) Labour lose loads of seats but stays in power, and sharply moves (even further to the) right to ‘compensate’ 2.) Elon gets his way, and there is a Tory-Reform frankengovernment which acts like a puppet regime for Trump.

Remember, Musk is agitating for a general election here because in his worldview, those violent far-right protesters who kicked off during the summer here are “political prisoners” once they’ve been locked up. Ignoring the fact of all the terrible crimes they did, setting fire to buildings full of people and so on, the judiciary here is non-political. Judges in Britain are independent of the government, aren’t hand-picked by politicians, aren’t elected, and don’t have party affiliations. The government didn’t tell the judges who to jail, and the judges were merely enacting the existing laws in jailing the violent protesters.

(Also, do we really want oligarchs like Elon Musk actively dictating which party governs nations that they don’t live in and aren’t a citizen of? And as an extension of that, do we really want Trump “doing a Putin” and disrupting overseas election in his favour?)
 
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Tuxedo Prime

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(Also, do we really want oligarchs like Elon Musk actively dictating which party governs nations that they don’t live in and aren’t a citizen of? )
Musk retains Canadian citizenship, and I don't want him any more involved in those elections than casting his own ballot, thankyouverymuch.....
 

Rhinox

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Yeah, I think it's time Elon gets a reminder that he should stay the hug out of politics unless he's a citizen. I note he's only playing these games int he US and the UK, not in other European countries, where I'm sure they'd ban his ass and his app quickly.
 

wonko the sane?

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The courts will rule in favour of musk on that: not just because the terms of service outright state that anything you upload is property of twitter (I will never call it x.) but also because the individual accounts do not exist in a vacuum; they only exist because the service exists and leon owns the service.

When you have a free service; the user is the commodity.
 

G.B.Blackrock

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The courts will rule in favour of musk on that: not just because the terms of service outright state that anything you upload is property of twitter (I will never call it x.) but also because the individual accounts do not exist in a vacuum; they only exist because the service exists and leon owns the service.

When you have a free service; the user is the commodity.
Even granting that Twitter owns the tweets, I'm not convinced the courts would find that assertion enough to prevent the sale. It seems a pretty spurious argument, to me.
 

Rhinox

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I'm certain the courts will find for Musk on this. As Wonko said, it's his platform, we use it under his terms of service which clearly spell out that he retains ownership.
I don't think this is enough to stop the sale, but I do think that the twitter account will be removed from the sale terms.
 

Pocket

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If he tries to sell Alex Jones the account and let him keep posting under it, the Onion can just nail him for trademark infringement. Trademarks expire if they're not being actively used, and the Onion almost definitely bought InfoWars specifically to erase it from existence, but I think there's a minimum downtime period where you have plausible deniability, and we all know neither Musk nor Jones is going to want to wait until that time is up.
 

Dekafox

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Anything Musk says is non-binding legally(and his "boss" isn't even in office yet to put him in a position to make those non-binding recommendations), fault here is on the congresspeople who are listening to him - and for a lot of congresspeople, listening to billionaires primarily is SOP for our cyberpunk dystopia anyways.
 

Pale Rider

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FB friend:
Elon Musk is the poster boy for the theory that Dunning-Kruger effect is 1000x worse if you're rich.
Imagine having a net worth of $400 billion and being such an asshole that you use your wealth to lobby for cutting $190 million from children's cancer research.

I can't believe Elon Musk still has so many fans.
You know, the media COULD push back against the unprecedented influence of Elon Musk by mocking Trump about it every chance they get. They could start every question with "Will Elon Musk allow you to ..." or "Do you need to pass this idea by Elon Musk for approval" and basically mock him for being Elon's bitch.

But nobody in the press has the cojones to do this to his face. They're all a bunch of simpering cowards.
 


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