Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

Ungnome

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Paladin, no matter what, HE DOESN'T HAVE THE ******* VOTES TO AMEND THE CONSTITUTION!

Ironbite-jesus.
Well, part of what he said could very well be true. The man is 78 and regularly eats McDonalds. He could very well be leaving the white house in a box. Hopefully one that looks like an oversized Big Mac container.
 

Pale Rider

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And even if he did all it would get him is being defeated by Barack Obama.

That would be the perfect end to his story. Especially if Obama appoints a pit bull to AG and they prosecute Trump for all the illegal jive we know he's going to do over the next four years.
 

Ungnome

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I'd rather have someone a bit further left than Obama, but yea, would be deliciously ironic if a constitutional amendment meant to allow Trump to run for a third term ended up putting a man they have smeared since 2008 back in office instead.
 

Paladin

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ah yes; the out and proud fascist supported by a cordon of other fascists will stop being fascist because a piece of paper tells him he can't do something.

How reassuring.
 

Pocket

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Well yeah, but on the other hand imagine Trump holding a fair election just to prove he can win again and managing to lose again instead.

See, that's the difference between you and me. I can see all kinds of worst-case scenarios unfolding before me and I'm not afraid to blurt them out... but I can also, somehow, still imagine an epically ironic happy ending to this story. See also my recent post about NATO invading the US and kicking its ass for trying to invade Canada and Greenland.

Because we all know how the story ended the last time fascism reared its ugly head, right?
 

Ungnome

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ah yes; the out and proud fascist supported by a cordon of other fascists will stop being fascist because a piece of paper tells him he can't do something.

How reassuring.
There are a few Republicans in Congress who actually respect said piece of paper and it will only take a few to keep Trump and his cronies from ignoring it so his only option is an amendment. He can't get 75% of the vote in congress even IF all the republicans fall in line. He also can't get 2/3 of state legislatures to pass it either, even if every republican led state legislature votes yes.
 

Axaday

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It really would be delicious if Trump did all of that to get himself a 3rd term and lost to Obama.

I'm on record and will go on record again. Trump did not intend to win in 2016. He was just promoting his brand and getting himself audiences at rallies. But he did win, so he dabbled at Presidenting for 4 years. He liked being called Mr. President and The Most Powerful Man in the World, but barely wielded any power. He signed the stuff that Congress sent him and he nominated judges from the lists that conservatives prepared for him. He didn't make any powerful, persuasive speeches, didn't accomplish his big promises, didn't sign any legislation that had been his idea, didn't convince Congress to do anything they weren't already doing. He just kept the seat warm and the seat where he watched evening news shows and the seats at Mar-A-Lago were warmer than the one in the Oval Office. He ran for reelection and got the kind of humiliation that a narcissist cannot let stand, so he devoted 2 months to trying to undo it and didn't succeed. So he devoted 4 years to getting comeuppance and then especially when he started getting in big legal trouble. And there he did succeed. He has already accomplished everything that he cared about in his campaign. The only campaign issues that he REALLY cared about were "I shouldn't be a one-term President" and "I shouldn't have to go to jail". Donald Trump does not want a 3rd term. He just wants to be called a Great President and you don't get that if you got kicked out. Donald Trump does not want supreme power. He just wants to be RECOGNIZED as powerful.

He will break stuff in his second term just like his first. He'll nominate more conservative judges. He'll embarrass our country and hurt our allies. He'll embolden evil people inside and outside our country. If a big event like Covid comes along, he will mishandle it. It is NOT a good thing that he is President. But one thing we do not need to worry about is him staying a day longer than he is due.

Edit - And anyway, I give it even odds the he won't see 82 years old.
 

CoffeeHorse

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FEMA was stationed in my neighborhood for months after the Great Flood of 2023, and it's a good thing they were here because our governor was living in Iowa at the time. If we had to rely solely on state help my neighborhood would still be an island.
 

Corvus

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Might I suggest screenshots of tweets as opposed to links to Xitter?

If not, so be it, but I have that jive blocked on Firefox.
 

Covert Agent Rodimal

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Without an amendment (which he'll never get, not enough support. It'll never make it out of congress, much less get a 3/4 majority of the states), it's a mute point, but funny to contemplate.
 

Pocket

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Might I suggest screenshots of tweets as opposed to links to Xitter?

If not, so be it, but I have that jive blocked on Firefox.
I do not rightly understand why people critical of Trump are still camping out on that site. I'm starting to genuinely miss 2013 Tumblr callout culture that absolutely would have ruined lives over continuing to support a platform literally owned by a neo-Nazi.
 


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