Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

Axaday

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Which means that restricting immigration at all is "not grounded in tradition", right?
Well. It is pretty grounded in tradition now. There was a long time that the US had plenty of room and not enough workers was holding us back. That's not where we are now. I think a ground up rethink on all of our immigration would be a good idea, but I don't feel conversant on all the details. I don't know if we could handle all the people that would come if we really had the open border that redhats think Democrats want. And AI and androids may be about to put a lot of hurt on the unskilled labor sector. I don't know.
 

Axaday

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They write what they write. "Strict Constructionist" decided Heller according the intent of the Second Amendment and they were wrong. They decided Dobbs according to the intent of the Tenth Amendment and they were right. They are spotty on following the original intent of the Constitution, but they are pretty accurate at agreeing with modern Republicans.
 

Pocket

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Well. It is pretty grounded in tradition now. There was a long time that the US had plenty of room and not enough workers was holding us back.
Now we still have plenty of room but not where anyone (except the very very desperate) wants to live, and not enough workers but not for jobs that anyone (except the very very desperate) wants to do. Both those vacancies could still easily be filled by legal immigrants—which is to say, making it easier for people to become legal immigrants rather than having to hop the border and lay low—but then we'd have to actually pay them at least minimum wage. It's been so much more convenient to have a workforce that are perpetually exploited with the threat of sending them back where they came from if they complain. The mainstream right understands this, but they can't say it out loud. Instead they've occasionally made empty gestures about how "illegal immigration is a big problem and someone should do something about them" to remind their workers how thin of a string their livelihood (such as it is) is hanging from.

They didn't figure on a sizable voter bloc completely missing the point of it all and instead taking it as a genuine call to action, nor a charismatic (by the standards of said voter bloc) loudmouthed dumbass also missing the point and leading the charge. But they can't do anything about it now. Owning up to it having been a ruse wouldn't win them any favors with anyone.
 

Rhinox

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He's the trickle down asshat. hug Milton.

. . . .so it's almost 9am here in the midwest. What fucked up EO has been signed so far today? We're on a hot streak of every day being just as bad, if not worse than the last. I'm ready, let's go. What will it be today Tangerine Jesus? Colored people getting too 'upity' so we've got to repeal their basic human rights? Did Melania tell you no in bed so we're rolling back domestic protections? Come on, let's ******* have it.
 

wonko the sane?

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He's the trickle down asshat. hug Milton.

. . . .so it's almost 9am here in the midwest. What fucked up EO has been signed so far today? We're on a hot streak of every day being just as bad, if not worse than the last. I'm ready, let's go. What will it be today Tangerine Jesus? Colored people getting too 'upity' so we've got to repeal their basic human rights? Did Melania tell you no in bed so we're rolling back domestic protections? Come on, let's ******* have it.
Trump wants to deport repeat offenders. Not an EO yet, but he mentioned it, so it's coming.
 

Rhinox

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We keep being brought to the brink of a Constitutional crisis, but then get yanked back. I wonder if the strategy here is to just 'tire out' all the old people in Congress so that when the real fecal matter hits oscillating blade at speed they won't be ready for it.
 

Axaday

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I think it is just what happens when bad, dumb people do big things without thinking it through first. Often they find out that it isn't even what THEY want.
 

M. Virion

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The White House is saying they stand by the EO and will fully implement it, it's just the 'memo' that is rescinded. Whatever the hug that means.
 

Rhinox

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hug sake, people. I know he's fat, but just how many of you do y'all think will fit up that ass? Come the hug on.
 

Axaday

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There is a good space where Trump would fit on Mt Rushmore, but
1) List of GREATEST Presidents is not what the theme of that monument is, unlike what most people think
2) That or the real criteria, either one doesn't apply to Trump.

Florida can just make their own Trump statue if they want. It'll for sure get pulled down in 20 years, but if the whole point of it is just the....erection of it, you don't have to worry about that.
 


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