Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread
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Trump can play the spin game all he wants, but that order is the coup. If that goes unchallenged, he absolutely will declare himself god king and say he can have as many terms as he wants. This ends elections in America.
I know he's got some serious ass kissers in SCOTUS, but I guarantee this gets John Roberts out of bed. He will not allow himself to go down in history as the last head of SCOTUS, the one who allowed this to happen under his watch. I'm willing to bet Barrett will also join him. I think she's got an eye on history as well. Alito is a psychotic zealot, Thomas is (forgive me for saying this) an Uncle Tom who'll do whatever is best for him and hug the rest. Cavanaugh isn't quite a zealot yet, but he is a short sighted idiot. He'll play.
I know he's got some serious ass kissers in SCOTUS, but I guarantee this gets John Roberts out of bed. He will not allow himself to go down in history as the last head of SCOTUS, the one who allowed this to happen under his watch. I'm willing to bet Barrett will also join him. I think she's got an eye on history as well. Alito is a psychotic zealot, Thomas is (forgive me for saying this) an Uncle Tom who'll do whatever is best for him and hug the rest. Cavanaugh isn't quite a zealot yet, but he is a short sighted idiot. He'll play.
From the article. Unless I'm missing something from the actual executive order, this is about regulations not the actual laws. This is NOT him saying he makes all the alws. This is about how the laws get enforced.
I think this might have been explained before, but my dad worked for the EPA himself before he retired, and he's explained this process to me before. When a bill becomes law, that is the statute. The next step BEFORE it can be enforced is for a regulation to be written covering HOW the law gets applied.This is typically a long process that can take upwards of a year from the time a law is passed. After the first draft, it gets passed back for review(possible through other related agencies IIRC), questionable parts brought up, then it gets rewritten to account for that(so the courts won't just throw it out because of incorrect enforcement). From the description here, it sounds like the AG and President basically are now the ones to write every regulation, or have final say on them before they start getting enforced.
This isn't him overriding congress, the courts, etc, this is him simply saying "if you run an agency, you answer to me still on how/where you do it". All the regulations, whether overseen by Trump's AG or not still have to pass muster under the courts to be legal. It's basically just him flexing his "I'm the big man here" ego, and/or curtailing the ability of agencies to write their own regulations(which tbf was a bit knocked around by the removal of chevron deference anyways). I hope his AG is ready for some all-nighters though if he's planning to write EVERY regulation from here on out.
Assuming you're interpreting the law the same way trump will: cause he will never not overstep his power.
His interpretation of law is "I can do what I want and get away with it". Nobody's ever actually stopped him before, he's just trying to make it official now.
In regards to that, a slightly different perspective, with a good reminder:
Additionally, I found a lengthier summary (from a WaPo article, I know, but it does give more detail):
The article: https://archive.is/5VOi0
Additionally, I found a lengthier summary (from a WaPo article, I know, but it does give more detail):
The article: https://archive.is/5VOi0
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Again, text matters and making up stuff that's not in it just because we know what his endgame is playing into what they want. If everything is an emergency, nothing is, and it causes outrage fatigue, which lessens our ability to react appropriately. Same tactic where they submit crap bills to the House about things like making Trump's birthday a holiday so the media focuses on that and ignores some of the other bills they're trying to slip through at the same time.
Here's where the tire actually meets the road:
Here they appear to be ACTUALLY refusing a court order finally, so we'll see where this goes. (For clarity, TRO I'm pretty sure is Temporary Restraining Order, as this is over the hold they put on the USAID funding freeze, and how they are trying to interpret it.)
Here's where the tire actually meets the road:
Here they appear to be ACTUALLY refusing a court order finally, so we'll see where this goes. (For clarity, TRO I'm pretty sure is Temporary Restraining Order, as this is over the hold they put on the USAID funding freeze, and how they are trying to interpret it.)
Oh, he’s seemingly declared himself king on Twitter. Great.
New Social Security chief contradicts claims that millions of dead people are getting payouts
The new head of the Social Security Administration says deceased centenarians are “not necessarily receiving benefits."
apnews.com
I need a reporter to ask Elon whether he was intentionally misrepresenting the facts or if he just didn't take the time to understand them.
Both. He can be an idiot AND a liar. It's all the rage in DC these days.
When he said "Some of these people would have been alive before America existed as a country. Think about that for a second" someone should have stood up and said, "No, YOU think about it." When and how did someone get in the system who was 250 when the program started? The explanation isn't what I would have assumed, but you've gotta know that this isn't an example of somebody abusing the system. It has to be a data issue. Someone who was laundering money is going to be more careful than this and someone who just didn't report their parents death was already way too late.
I can't wait to see the military revolt when he tries to implement commissars.
the problem still has the potential to resolve itself...
WEll, I'd love to read the article but it's behind a paywall so....
It's because the database was coded in COBOL. The "default" zero-date is in 1875.
Of course, Musk and his Twitler Youth don't know this because they're either idiots or too young and inexperienced to know that COBOL exists.
The TL;DR version is that Boeing has been preparing two 747s to be new replacement Air Force Ones. This takes a lot of work because the planes require all sorts of defensive tech, and they've been working on the planes since last time Trump was in office. Trump is impatient and wants to speed up the process up by lowering the security clearance needed so Boeing can get more people working on it. Also Musk is involved because of course.
So potential scenarios:
1/ plane falls apart in mid air because Boeing
2/ plane explodes in mid air because Musk
3/ plane explodes in mid air because a foreign power sneaked an agent onto the build team
4/ plane crashes on landing because DOGE fired all the air traffic controllers
5/ plane crashes mid-flight because the pilot lost his job thanks to DOGE and bailed out