Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

Axaday

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Yeah, I know. But there was another group of votes to be lost if she started complaining about him. My childhood impression that VPs get elected President was a really bad take and I didn't know it until a few weeks ago. It is REALLY hard for a VP to win that election. Being Joe Biden's teammate is the reason she has the standing to be on the ballot. Without the Biden administration and her implied high level participation in it, she is a former Senator running for President who got picked out of a hat. Asking her if she disagrees with Biden is asking her to name errors that she's made in the White House. It is a rotten question. I'm not saying they shouldn't ask it, but it is a trap and I don't know what to say if I am her.
 

Corvus

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KidTDragon

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"How could we have known that the candidate who is so publicly buddy-buddy with Netanyahu would be pro-Israel?"
 

Ungnome

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"How could we have known that the candidate who is so publicly buddy-buddy with Netanyahu would be pro-Israel?"
Trump is bad at very many things, but he is actually pretty good at being a conman. *sigh*
 

Rhinox

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I guess really there's nothing left but to enjoy the schadenfreude of people who voted for the leopards having their own faces eaten and acting shocked.
 

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I guess really there's nothing left but to enjoy the schadenfreude of people who voted for the leopards having their own faces eaten and acting shocked.
I'd say so, but I now have to hide who I am for at least another two years just to keep my family safe...... I'm not sure if the blue state resistance will be enough to stop the persecution of people like me, despite living in one of those states.
 

Rhinox

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I'd say so, but I now have to hide who I am for at least another two years just to keep my family safe...... I'm not sure if the blue state resistance will be enough to stop the persecution of people like me, despite living in one of those states.
I'm going to apologize for the bluntness of this statement.

It won't be. Right now we're on the precipice of open season and the hunters will be out. Anyone who has anything to gain on the national stage is going to use LGBTQ and Trans people as THE boogymen. Especially once they start deporting the migrants and we begin dealing with that fallout. You all are the next big target.
I'm sorry for that, but this is reality right now.
 

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Not gonna be easy on my mental health, but I've been hiding for nearly 40 years, I can try to ride it out and I now have a job that is somewhat insulated from the whims of the economy in general(work for a municipally owned utility company that has been in operation for over a century that doesn't 'have' to make a profit, though we usually do) so my lively-hood likely won't be threatened unless things get REALLY BAD.
 

Pale Rider

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FB friend:
From Trump's cabinet picks, you can tell he doesn't want to hire smart people, because the last time he hired smart people, they became enraged at his stupidity. He now wants to hire only people as stupid as himself, because stupid people aren't bothered by being around other stupid people.
Repeatedly electing a wannabe-dictator and trusting the legal system to control him is like repeatedly eating salmonella-laced food and trusting your immune system to protect you.
 

Axaday

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Transgender an odd kind of issue, because it cannot be settled. The Republicans talk LIKE there are policy decisions to be made concerning schools giving transition surgery and sports participation, but the former is totally fake and the latter won't be handled by the government. Talk also of bathroom issues, but those issues belong to the owners of bathrooms. The GOP ACTUALLY talk about it as a demonstration of how Democrats just can't understand reality itself. It's very useful there, because a great mass of the populace is flummoxed by the issue.

As long as Democrats are supportive of Transgender issues and the populace remain flummoxed, it will be a fabulous wedge issue for Republicans. And they are actively working to keep the populace flummoxed just in case people start thinking about how little it affects their own lives.
 

Pale Rider

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As long as Democrats are supportive of Transgender issues and the populace remain flummoxed, it will be a fabulous wedge issue for Republicans. And they are actively working to keep the populace flummoxed just in case people start thinking about how little it affects their own lives.

For what it's worth, Brianna Wu is arguing the same thing here...

 

Ungnome

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Transgender an odd kind of issue, because it cannot be settled. The Republicans talk LIKE there are policy decisions to be made concerning schools giving transition surgery and sports participation, but the former is totally fake and the latter won't be handled by the government. Talk also of bathroom issues, but those issues belong to the owners of bathrooms. The GOP ACTUALLY talk about it as a demonstration of how Democrats just can't understand reality itself. It's very useful there, because a great mass of the populace is flummoxed by the issue.

As long as Democrats are supportive of Transgender issues and the populace remain flummoxed, it will be a fabulous wedge issue for Republicans. And they are actively working to keep the populace flummoxed just in case people start thinking about how little it affects their own lives.
The issue is they WEREN'T supportive, they just didn't demonize us. There is a difference there. Thankfully we have a trans woman in congress now. Visibility matters and seeing that she is just like everyone else in most aspects outside of her gender experience could help fix that. Also, it can be settled. The science, generally, is on our side
 


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