Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[Axaday]

People named in JFK assassination documents are not happy their personal information was released

The John F. Kennedy assassination documents released this week disclosed sensitive personal information, including Social Security numbers.

apnews.com

Following up on populist promise to release all the redacted records about JFK, those documents were all released. Including a document from the 90s with the names and SSN of people who had made requests to see the records.

The White House says they will give credit monitoring to the people affected and will give them new SSN.

Tell me what you can do a good job at if you can't do this?

 

[Pocket]

At some point, records necessary to prove people's existence are going to start straight-up disappearing. Maybe through similar acts of incompetence, maybe on purpose with a pattern of incompetence as a cover. Either way, this is a bad sort of time to be having to bring a bunch of unique, irreplaceable documents to a government office to try to straighten things out, especially if you're the sort of person they don't like.

 

[Paladin]

so if you have anything on your phone critical of Dear Leader they can block you from entering the country now.

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www.reuters.com

 

[Dekafox]

So remember that 18th century act that the Trump administration is trying to apply to deport people without due process, even though it requires the US to be at war to actually apply, and has ignored the courts about so far? Apparently internally Trump's lawyers are now looking to interpret it as allowing entry into houses without a warrant.

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www.nytimes.com

non-paywalled link: https://archive.is/3FdBF

 

[Axaday]

Luthan Rael would said this was good.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Luthan Rael would said this was good.

So... immigration officials that can arrest and deport you without due process being allowed to come into your home without a warrant, provocation or warning... is a good thing?

 

[Cybersnark]

So... immigration officials that can arrest and deport you without due process being allowed to come into your home without a warrant, provocation or warning... is a good thing?

From Star Wars: Andor

The clip doesn't exist on Youtube, but here's a quote:

Mon Mothma: You realize what you've set in motion?
Luthen Rael: It was time for that as well.
Mon Mothma: Palpatine won't hesitate now.
Luthen Rael: Exactly! We need it. We need the fear. We need them to overreact.
Mon Mothma: You can't be serious.
Luthen Rael: The Empire has been choking us so slowly, we're starting not to notice. The time has come to force their hand.
Mon Mothma: People will suffer.
Luthen Rael: That's the plan.

 

[Rhinox]

. . . . yeah pretty much. It is only after the pain is felt by those who thought all of this would happen to others that we will see true pushback and progress forward.

Yes, a whole lot of good and decent people will suffer. But that was going to happen anyway. The second Trump got the votes, they were fucked. Best make their sacrifice worthwhile.

 

[NovaSaber]

US deports French scientist after officials ‘find texts critical of Trump’

A French scientist was denied entry to the US after immigration officials found text messages that were critical of Donald Trump which they said “could be considered to be terrorism”.

www.yahoo.com

 

[wonko the sane?]

Welp, you know what this means: time for the equivalent population of china to start jive posting trump 24/7.

 

[Pocket]

If Xi Jinping is Winnie-the-Pooh, who gets to stand in for Trump? Nazi Donald Duck?

 

[Pale Rider]

FB friend:

Canadians travelling in the northeastern US are now reporting that traffic cops are stopping them on suspicion of smuggling Fentanyl.

It is insane how Trump can just make up the stupidest bullshit accusations out of thin air and his loyal idiot followers believe every word. And some of these idiots carry guns and badges.

Avoid travel to the US. It is not a safe place.

Loki was right: people secretly crave subjugation, especially in times of uncertainty and fear.

In such times, childish people want a strongman to make them feel safe: someone they can call "Daddy", the way FOXNews refers to Trump.

The UAW has come out in support of Trump's trade war. This is why Trump won a second term: there are just too many stupid people in America.

 

[Axaday]

US deports French scientist after officials ‘find texts critical of Trump’

A French scientist was denied entry to the US after immigration officials found text messages that were critical of Donald Trump which they said “could be considered to be terrorism”.

www.yahoo.com

When you are in charge of a country and people who don't like you, but aren't fighting you, are working for your country, that is a win.

 

[wonko the sane?]

And now he's claiming he never signed the war measures act against the Venezuelan gangers.

 

[Rhinox]

Not surprising considering the legal issues surrounding that are quickly coming home to roost.
This is just Trump in a nutshell. If it works or he gets away with it, all part of the plan. Something goes wrong or there's an actual price to pay, he's hands off, had nothing to do with it, but appreciates the hard work of all involved.

Seriously, why does this man engender such loyalty? He is known for throwing everyone under the bus. Why would anyone trust him?!

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

It's sorta the same reason goons keep working for the Joker. Sure, he might shoot you or get you beaten up by a guy in a bat mask, but he might also shower you with riches and rewards if you're loyal and the mood strikes him. The difference is that the Joker is mercurial and insane, while Trump is stupid and lazy. He's far less likely to notice people skimming off the top as long as he still gets the lion's share

 

[Axaday]

Seriously, why does this man engender such loyalty? He is known for throwing everyone under the bus. Why would anyone trust him?!

You are talking about the actual henchmen? They want to be in the room where it happened.

It's weird. I've talked about it before, but to catch up. Rudy Giuliani has probably always essentially been the guy we see now. But in the right circumstances he was a hero laywer that took down the mob and then the mayor of NYC and very popular and not just, but the mayor during 9/11 who came out a hero. He was called Mayor of the World I think. If he had stayed retired, that would've been great. But he had to get involved again and now look at him. Trump used him up and he let him and now he's just ruined.

What will happen to Musk? I will admit to an oof. I didn't pay attention to the guy and other people were already aware of what kind of guy he was, but just however many years ago it was that he bought Twitter, I was surprised when people said he would reinstate Trump and I didn't think he would. I was impressed with the guy running so many forward-thinking businesses and apparently so smart and I had no idea about his politics or ickiness. I think it was reasonable to assume that the guy running Tesla and SpaceX was progressive. So when he reinstated Trump I first thought it was just about freedom or something, but soon found out, no he's into him. I am guessing a lot of people had no idea what he was like. So like Giuliani I'm not going to say it isn't his fault. But he fell in with Trump because he wanted to be in the room where it happened and now Tesla is nosediving and it's going to get worse for him, I think. If Tesla had actually been fine and this was just being done by angry liberals, it would be time to buy the stock, but the news is hitting at the same time that Tesla isn't really doing well anyway. Before he is done with Trump, he's likely to get sued for a lot of money like Giuliani and he'll be able to afford it, but it'll be a regrettable amount. Reasonably chance he gets criminal charges in 4-5 years that Trump won't be able to pardon and he'll be house-arrested a couple years. Was it worth it? Did he not have cool stuff to do?

 

[Pocket]

In Musk's case it's not just that he wants to be in the room where it happened, he wants to be the one doing it. And he is. Trump isn't exactly spending every day playing golf anymore, but he's still delegated an insane amount of work to this guy who doesn't even have an official Cabinet position.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

It's also that Musk wants to be seen doing it. His ego is at least as bad as Trump's.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Which is the unfortunate paradox of large scale anything. Because it's such a prestigious position (or in musks case: directly adjacent to, and filling in for.) it's always going to be a famous position: and famous positions will always draw the unworthy for their own selfish ends.

But unless you want a dictatorship: you also can't hide the person or the position. It needs to visible and transparent.