Vector Prime's way ahead of you with his GoBots alias of "Vec-Tor".The next version of the 13 should all reinterpret them to reference Gobots, as the true progenitors of the Cybertronians!
Transformers: Age of the Primes toyline discussion || update: Prima, Red Alert
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There was a rumour floating about that AotP's later waves would have a Sentinel Prime. I've seen people speculating that he could be another stab at the IDW design by repainting/remoulding Siege Astrotrain, or maybe a Missing Link-inspired repaint of Legacy G1 Optimus, but call me crazy but...
You could do a Sunbow U-Haul Robot/Sentinel Prime out of this AotP Prima, right? Like the base skeleton looks pretty compatible. Just needs some different shelling...
As nice as the Alpha Trizer colors look on the Thundertron body -- and as much as I still am waiting for a color scheme I like better on Legacy Thundertron -- I'd prefer Alpha Trion as a Vector Prime retool.
I'm actually still a bit thrown by Prima being a wheeled vehicle. Rather that also be a starship type.
I'm actually still a bit thrown by Prima being a wheeled vehicle. Rather that also be a starship type.
I'm interested in the FFOD bots, but I never liked the idea of Prima being retconned as this guy (and the way that it happened). Maybe I'll get used to it.
If this isn't the only one and we're actually getting the FFOD bots I will be very interested. It's always been surprising to me how little influence that sequence has had.
On the other hand...
Nova Prime- truck
Sentinel Prime- truck (sometimes)
Optimus Prime- truck
Rodimus Prime- (kind of a) truck
There are outliers (sometimes Sentinel is a a jet and/or train, Nominus is a jet) but there does seem to be a very consistent "Primes are tucks" theme going, so having the first of that lineage set the tone works well.
Early internet fandom: "Oh, but see, that flashback sequence is all about the Quintesson creation origin and nobody like that origin. Primus all the way, baby!"
I don't hate Alpha Trion as a lion, and like with the Thirteen as a whole TFO really sold me on the idea...
...but it is kinda weird that one unproduced BotCon exclusive has just become the default reference point for Alpha Trion.
I liked his TR toy well enough, and I like the Legacy Thundertron mould so I'm sure a version of that as A3 will work well. But I donno... it's just weird. I think I'm content with my Legacy Alpha Trion from SS '86 Scourge.
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Ehh. THOSE Primes are trucks.
Well, there's also the long standing bias of "most autobots do not fly" and it open up the possibility of another titan in the line to cart their legendary asses around.
I think it's a combination of a few things.
First, a lot of those guys are clearly cobbled together designs from some Sunbow artist at 4:50 on a Friday. Zeta Prime is just a miscoloured Optimus. Guardian Prime is just Eastern European KO Rodimus. Prima is just "change up the answers so it's not super obvious you copied my homework" Cyclonus. Sentinel Prime, by being a weird rhino/dinosaur truck, actually comes out ahead in that crowd, and even he's very clearly weird in that weird 80s Sunbow BS sort of way. It's hard to explain but it's certainly a vibe.
Secondly the names I just used? They were applied to those characters decades later by FunPub. For the longest time those characters, though supposedly important past Autobot leaders, were just nameless dudes even the script referred to in generic terms, adding to the "cobbled together late on a Friday" feel.
Like... around the same time Marvel gave us "We are Prima, we are Prime Nova, we are Sentinel Prime, we are Optimus Prime."
Now they didn't do anything with that, but it certainly seems more fertile ground to grow something than a bunch of nameless generics from FFoD.
Finally, as @Sabrblade said, FFoD was tied to the Quintesson origin which, in the formative years of the fandom, was not nearly as popular as the Primus origin.
Now with all that said.... they could do an entire Generations subline called "Sunbow Mooks" that had all of the FFoD guys along with every bats**t generic and I'd buy them all
Prima isn't supposed to turn into anything, so I'm guessing since he's the ur-Prime, they just made him a similar vehicle to Optimus. I imagine we'll find out more with the inevitable behind the scenes.
"I am Prima! First born of Primus, wielder of the Star Sabre and Matrix of Leadership! I also need a ride!"
Most of the Thirteen didn't have specified alt modes, and their Aligned/Covenant art didn't give much in the way of kibble to infer. But it is a Transformers toyline so it's gotta be something, and I think you're right. Prima's alt mode has a trailer stripe very clearly based on Optimus', so I think the implication is that he's the starting point for the "(most) Primes are trucks" trend.
You have no idea how much those words speak to me.
Give me that Sunbow Mooks capsule featuring Rodimus Snarl, Onslaught Seeker, Silverbolt Seeker, AKOM Hot Rod, Constructicon Shockwaves...
Same really. I think this go around I would prefer a starship Alpha. It would also help differentiate him from TFOne Alpha. And save Thundertron for an Alpha Trizer style redeco.
Speaking of, I chose mainline Thundertron over boxset Thundertron, mainky because I kinda like the darker blue better. Still tempted by hook hand Prime style Thundertron though.
Some digibashes (colourised version not by me).
The AllSpark Almanac II, not Fun Pub.