Transformers: Age of the Primes toyline discussion || update: Voyager Skybyte and Heatwave

CoffeeHorse

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I haven't seen a minute of the show. I just appreciate good designs, and Rescue Bots quietly did some of the most interesting stuff of its era.

This Heatwave isn't ideal, but it blows away the stuff Armada fans had to put up with before Legacy.
 

Gizmoboy

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I haven't seen any of Rescue Bots either, so I've been skipping the new offerings. Can't collect everything.
 

LordGigaIce

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This Heatwave isn't ideal, but it blows away the stuff Armada fans had to put up with before Legacy.
I think that's another reason I find the kvetching about newer figures getting the Generations makeover eye rolling.
I have Armada Megs, Optimus, and Starscream. I love those figures, but they are flawed.
And be it an Armada Starscream who was too small or an Armada Megatron who was just a G1 Megatron with a new head... we didn't have the best of luck getting remakes. Then Legacy knocked Armada revisits out of the park.

RescueBots, for whatever else it may or may not be, has been pretty well represented between Medix, Chase, and Heat Wave. Even if all three have been retools or pretools, they all seem to be pretty solid representations of the designs.

Which is another reason I don't really buy the angst over Heat Wave. This is a design from a pre-school oriented show. That stuff never got the time of day before, now it's getting the mainline treatment and oh no the arms/torso/engine aren't 100%...
I had to make my peace with CW Armada Megatron for years if I wanted an Armada Megs who could bend his knees. Heat Wave having faux parts on his arms on an otherwise faithful design for his first Generations outing is pretty damn good.

We talk about "maturity" but the characters in the cartoon were already very mature. All of the Rescue Bots were coded to having grown up adult minds who took every emergency situation seriously with the gravitas that each one deserved. The show didn't talk down to children, and was arguably more intelligently written than what was intended for its target demographic, skewing it a bit older in a way that made it popular with older viewers.

I mean, hey, Heatwave himself was voiced by Steve Blum using his Wolverine voice, when he didn't even use that voice for Wolverine himself when voicing him in The Super Hero Squad Show.
Let's not confuse quality of writing and tone with artistic style.
RescueBots-in-Generations beckons the question of if they should have the chibi designs from the show, or a "serious" blowup to bring them in line with the Generations line as a whole.

I'm not trying to take away anything from the show bringing that up, it's been a talking point around RescueBots' representation in Gens ever since the first listings of their characters surfaced.

Medix and Chase both erred on the side of downplaying the kiddie/chibi look to make them more "serious," so I don't think it's so bad they opted for that direction with Heat Wave.

I haven't seen any of Rescue Bots either, so I've been skipping the new offerings. Can't collect everything.
Same. Going back to an earlier discussion in this thread, I skipped most of it. So Chase was a pass and Heat Wave will be a pass. Happy for those that wanted them though.

Now I did pick up Medix, but that was more due to liking his design.
 
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Steevy Maximus

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I guess this kind of goes here?
Hasbro is rerunning the previously Amazon exclusive Final Strike Battle packs. Alphastrike Counterforce featured Slamdance, G2 Sideswipe, and Trenchfoot; while the Phantomstrike Squadron featured Skywarp and a trio of Battlemasters.

Both are being offered to Fan Channels at a SRP of $50.
 

PrimalxConvoy

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That's the first thing my son noticed. He grew up with Rescue Bots and he's been excited for this figure to come out since I told him about it months ago. I've already gotten him the new Chase and Medix (and for myself as well). He even liked how nice mine looked with the Toyhax label sets on them that I had to buy another pair of sets for his!
Overall, we both like it, but yeah, that part of his body that's supposed to become his hands still being there looks weird. I can understand if they couldn't work it into the transformation, but since it apparently just ends up just a big hollow block on his chest, couldn't they come up with a way to just have those parts tuck into his body to keep his traditional silhouette?
I wish Medix was available to the general public...
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

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I haven't seen a minute of the show.

I haven't seen any of Rescue Bots either

Same. Going back to an earlier discussion in this thread, I skipped most of it.

You know, guys, it's not like there's much happening in the franchise, media-wise, at the moment...


Just saying, it's never to late to start...

Which is another reason I don't really buy the angst over Heat Wave. This is a design from a pre-school oriented show. That stuff never got the time of day before, now it's getting the mainline treatment and oh no the arms/torso/engine aren't 100%...
I mean, I said it was a minor grievance...

I mean, honestly, my biggest beef is the whole fake kibble thing, but considering I'd probably be more bummed (and I'm not especially bummed to begin with) if he didn't have the things on his arms, I think it's fine enough, even if it takes away from his more "muscular" physique.

Hell, he still looks like a beefy bot, just in a slightly different way.
 

LordGigaIce

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I mean, I said it was a minor grievance...

I mean, honestly, my biggest beef is the whole fake kibble thing, but considering I'd probably be more bummed (and I'm not especially bummed to begin with) if he didn't have the things on his arms, I think it's fine enough, even if it takes away from his more "muscular" physique.

Hell, he still looks like a beefy bot, just in a slightly different way.
My headspace is still stuck in the Archer/T30 years where older character redoes were either some unrelated comic design or another figure with a new head and paint and that's your lot, take it or leave it nerd.

We've been living in a far more friendly to deep cuts and referential designs era for about a decade now but I still can't really shift that to being my expectations. I still see stuff like black Diaclone Ironhide and Double Targetmasters being done straight with no compromises or weird justifications as special.

So seeing Heat Wave's first Gens outing makes me go "pretty good for a first go!"
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Titan-class High Tide when.

Not soon enough!

Something like that might make me break my "no more Titans" promise to my wife...

...if Star Optimus isn't small enough to do it first.

After Iaconus but before Energon Omega Supreme.
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I personally would welcome a Generations version of every member of this show's cast. Including Quickshadow.
This.
So seeing Heat Wave's first Gens outing makes me go "pretty good for a first go!"
Oh, totally agreed! Again, it's a minor thing.

Of course, among the bots from what might be one of if not the top favorite Transformers show of mine, Heatwave and Chase are my favorites from that lot, so I'm going to be more particular here. I could do without the hot rod pipe exhausts on Chase, but that hardly ruined the figure for me!

Green dude on the right looks more like a better fit for this mold NGL.
Yeah, I think some of us figured early on that if any Rescue Bot would get the Bulkhead mold, it would be Salvage.
 

Onyx

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Could probably get a Salvage out of the Trashmaster mold.

Personally, I'm waiting (hoping) to see Earthspark characters in the AotP line. They could to Twitch, Thrash, Hashtag, Aftermath and Spitfire as the Junkions/Rocklords for the 26 or 27 line. With Terratronus as the Titan for that year.
 

Sabrblade

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What... What's wrong with the Deluxe versions the Terrans already have?
 

Undead Scottsman

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They're pretty out of scale for one.

Hashtag should be a voyager, while Nightshade is a tall, skinny deluxe and Jawbreaker is a shorter, wider deluxe. Thrash is a small deluxe and Twitch is basically a legends or core class.
 

ZacWilliam1

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As long as everyone is within one size class of right I can deal with it.

-ZacWilliam, the Terrans aren't great scale wise but they're close enough that it doesn't bother me.
 


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