Ah, yes, so that we could then instead complain that it was a completely pointless toy because the original did all the same things and was slightly bigger.
Man, I die a little bit every time I see a quote like this.
Right, because every single person in this fandom was already in possession of the original at the time of POTP.
Right, because every single person in this fandom was already in possession of the original at the time of POTP.
That sounds like a you problem.
I still have mine. But not everyone does.That sounds like a you problem.
You know, making a Transformers Legacy line is kind of a fine-line balance, isn't it? Modern toy engineering CAN improve on figures from G1 and early G2 (but that doesn't automatically mean that it does), but from Beast Wars onwards, the improvements generally tend to be less drastic, and often (again, not always) at the expense of play features or gimmicks.
If they only feature the figures that genuinely improve on the originals, the line becomes "nothing but Geewun". But, when they update characters from later lines, those figures invariably get compared to the originals, and sometimes not favorably. There are trade-offs that have to happen, and they won't make everyone happy. On the other hand, that those characters get new figures alongside the G1 updates is pretty cool, and helps the line celebrate the entirety of Transformers history.
If they only feature the figures that genuinely improve on the originals, the line becomes "nothing but Geewun". But, when they update characters from later lines, those figures invariably get compared to the originals, and sometimes not favorably. There are trade-offs that have to happen, and they won't make everyone happy. On the other hand, that those characters get new figures alongside the G1 updates is pretty cool, and helps the line celebrate the entirety of Transformers history.
I like how this discussion presupposes that there ‘s somehow a way that the toy could be made that would result in no dumb nitpick comments. This is the internet.
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I've felt that since they introduced Beast Wars in Kingdom, but as they get to Cybertron it becomes even more clear. The Hot Shot from Cybertron is eerily similar. I'm happy to have the new one mind you, but it's like a lightly scaled down version.
This is gorgeous, but I'd rather they give it the Selects Primal Prime treatment.
Well, for me it was recently RID Omega Prime and Sideburn. The former being overpriced and alienating many fans (plus being too big for a regular collection) and the latter's extremely poor alt mode and flame detailing.
This only makes sense, as "add articulation" becomes less effective as a move when applied to generations already engineered with it. Then it becomes about improving proportions or changing up the articulation that was already there (hopefully for the better). Burn Out is a bigger "leap" than Prime Arcee, but sometimes you'll get a Cybertron Override whose original toy was a bit hamstrung by a gimmick.
One thing that complicates it a lot is the need to find a way to maximize the tooling for more than one release, AND more often than not, for beyond the expected options. This IS Transformers, so there are built-in redeco and retool options, but for Legacy there's been the drive to reuse tooling beyond those to represent more generations -- and, while I appreciate the representation, the results can be mixed (Strongarm, Side Burn).
But it's getting us things like Filch, Flame, and so on, so I can't complain too much.
It's a lot to juggle, but it's nice to watch them juggle.
Yet it reached it's goals far faster than any previous HasLab product, so it couldn't have alienated too many fans.
you gotta remember that anything that primalxconvoy doesn't like is automatically objectively bad and is actually alienating many fans and not just him personally
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They could always try their hand at a few better-scaled Beast Machines characters...
Hm, would Tankor need to be a Commander? They'd probably never go for it, I'd accept a Leader class though.
This. Even if it is just updates of the Vehicon Generals, it is beyond time to give that series some much-needed love.
Tankor would be great at a Commander level, but I don't know that he would be enough of a draw at that pricepoint. I mean, I would love one and would scramble to be first in line (the same would be true for a Commander Beast Machines Megatron), but I think that Leader would be sufficient.
Tankor's not that complex. Maybe that'll let them divert some budget to mass.
Right, he's not that complex. However, what they save on complexity, they could allocate to mass, because he was a big, beefy boy. They could also add in things like a Diagnostic Drone accessory, spark extractor, etc. And for what it's worth, I always felt like he (along with Thrust and Jetstorm) needed their beast-specific sparks instead of the Vehicon ones.