Hell yes to the Studebaker!
HasLab 2025: Liokaiser
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Hell yes to the Studebaker!
Hear me out: The Electric Mayhem's bus from The Muppet Movie, that turns into Animal. So you can reproduce the scene where he grew to giant size and scared away the bad guys. 8^)
Something I've been wondering about Liokasier, is what are the connection ports like? IE what style they are going to use, we seen pictures of the prototypes of combined, robot modes plus vehicle, but not the limib modes seperately as the ports are hidden, so I'm really curious!
He says that but
...nah. Too easy.
Anyway, I wonder if they can make one small change for the Nunchaku. The stretch goal is for six spears, one for each of the team, but it comes after we've already unlocked Deathcobra who makes seven.
Well, as I said before, TFSS 4.0 was $297, and it looks like 5.0 was $330. Assuming I have that right, Liokaiser now at seven new-mold (with some parts sharing) bots plus mini-partners is a better deal than either of them. And still nearly a month to get the last tiers in. It's STILL pricey, and for various reasons will probably BE most of my toy budget this year (and Omega was last) but it looks like it will work out.
Now to hope for one extra spear, a new minicon, Jan as a recolor of the Saber Brainmaster, and a whole team set of shells for the dinoforce. Normal low-cost last minute additions...
I noticed today at the bottom of the wrists in the combined mode a nozzle, like a jet exhaust or gun barrel. I think I see how the hand folds away for the jets, it goes SIDEWAYS and the legs collapse around it. I still wonder if Deathcobra's nose gun can be handheld, and if the rotor can be used as a hand weapon.
Now to hope for one extra spear, a new minicon, Jan as a recolor of the Saber Brainmaster, and a whole team set of shells for the dinoforce. Normal low-cost last minute additions...
I noticed today at the bottom of the wrists in the combined mode a nozzle, like a jet exhaust or gun barrel. I think I see how the hand folds away for the jets, it goes SIDEWAYS and the legs collapse around it. I still wonder if Deathcobra's nose gun can be handheld, and if the rotor can be used as a hand weapon.
The way I see it... seven Voyagers comes to $245. Factor in an upcharge for a limited production run... and $300 sounds about right.
ofc we won't know for certain until we get this thing in hand, or at the very least we see update videos... it may feel like it's not worth seven Voyagers,
Still, the two HasLabs I have (Victory Sabre and Deathsaurus) certainly felt premium so I doubt these guys are gonna end up looking and feeling cheap.
The blocks on the side of Leozak's feet are where the arms attach. There are sections that slot (?) onto said blocks.
The connection points for the arms are likely hidden in their chest, behind where the Breast Animal connects (but I'm not 100% on that).
As for the legs, they connect to the separate lower torso and thigh part with inserts from the leg components. This is similar to the original but rather than making the whole thigh, they have a knee joint that ends up inserted into the thighs.
You can see here with our the Breast Animal attached, it ends up hidden in the torso.
It's pretty clever how it all works to likely form very stable connection points.
Thanks for the info
In that last picture, I didn't know that Deathcobra was actuallyShockwave 2D man in disguise! 
In that last picture, I didn't know that Deathcobra was actually
RePUGnicon on TFW2005 figured out their approximate heights based on their hand hole size (5mm). They end up pretty big and beefy.
Haslab Liokaiser
So, maybe Road Caesar could be next?I feel like they may jump back to RID01 or another universe instead of going straight into Victory again.
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Haslab Liokaiser
*insert Liokaiser giggle* Also to be fair, everyone acknowledged those ass whoopings. Jan had nightmares about their fights. [ATTACH] Liokaiser...
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Thanks for the info
In that last picture, I didn't know that Deathcobra was actuallyShockwave2D man in disguise!
The base figures are only 2D. The third dimension is only unlocked at Tier 2.
If we make it all the way up to Tier 5, we get 7D Liokaiser that includes 5 spatial dimensions and 2 time dimensions. You'll only be able to perceive them while on heavy "medication."
I was thinking more of how the TFSS was mostly repaints and minor remolds, though we DID get the two Pretender Shells in 5 (to be fair, they were both repaints, but a repaint of a shell used for one Con exclusive and a shell from a Japanese exclusive Fortress Maximus recolor, so I gave them more credit, and I also assume it was the extra cost in 5.0). The HasLab just seems somewhat more economical to me, given that what you're getting here is all NEW. I didn't think of size classes, but the measurements will have me reconsidering my shelf plan.
"So how tall is 7D Liokaiser, really?"
"If you convert it to metric, he's 2 Pugs, 1.5 twerpentines, or 3 <Translation unavailable due to gravitational collapse of the conjugating verbiage Space The Color It Bleeds all hail the Mongoose King>"
"Oh, good, it should JUST about fit..."
"So how tall is 7D Liokaiser, really?"
"If you convert it to metric, he's 2 Pugs, 1.5 twerpentines, or 3 <Translation unavailable due to gravitational collapse of the conjugating verbiage Space The Color It Bleeds all hail the Mongoose King>"
"Oh, good, it should JUST about fit..."
*Checks list*
*Nods sagely*
Huh. Checks out...Ok, then! If anyone needs me I will be under my desk screaming.
*Nods sagely*
Huh. Checks out...Ok, then! If anyone needs me I will be under my desk screaming.
There's really no question that HasLab is more economical that FunPub's offerings were. FunPub's exclusives were routinely 4 times as expensive as the toys that used the same molds previously had been. There are lots of reasons for this (not all of which are bad. Please, I'm not looking to start a new FunPub hatred/defense discussion), but suffice it to say, Hasbro's in-house options have always been less expensive for what you're getting, even with all-new molds (such as HasLab).
I'm sorry, I wasn't looking at EITHER of the hate/defense options, I was just evaluating the cost for my own budgeting based on what I myself have done on other past exclusives, because of the discussion as to the package value. In my own case I saw it as a rare example of a Transformers Exclusive becoming LESS expensive for a comparative offering over time, and it surprised me as in almost all cases nowadays, the prices go up and up without exception. For a non-Haslab example, Dinoking reminds me a LOT of the old Botcon sets in miniature, a nice themed package of reused molds related to one theme that the fandom hasn't seen in a while or hasn't had options for, using some minor remolds and maybe a few new parts to give it distinctiveness. Liokaiser goes much further, with all the tiers, and even without them, a whole different figure added to the offering was something I never expected to see in a Transformers HasLab. GI Joe and Star Wars did it, sure, but their figures have a lot lower parts count.
A good chunk of why I'm thinking about this so much is I'm looking at what I have left that survived the mess last year when I had to get rid of a lot for survival's sake, and seeing what I can pull off this time, since no matter what I can't drive or eat it. I wasn't trying to cause arguments.
A good chunk of why I'm thinking about this so much is I'm looking at what I have left that survived the mess last year when I had to get rid of a lot for survival's sake, and seeing what I can pull off this time, since no matter what I can't drive or eat it. I wasn't trying to cause arguments.
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I don't think anyone here thought you were. Personally, I am not happy at all with Haslab/regular figures becoming so overpriced (especially in Japan, where this set is comparatively around 560 dollars). I believe the prices are going up but the quality is going down. I won't be getting Superion or Devastator due to these reasons (and a few more reasons). I've got no kids, more disposal income than some (but not much) but due to the rising prices of everything else, I've cut back on spending money on TFs.
I believe Hastak needs to read the room and start offering less expensive products.
However, that doesn't mean that by posting these opinions, I've caused an argument.
Neither have you.
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Unfortunately, unless you can completely change how Hasbro functions as a company, specifically in what their overall goals are (i.e. making as much money as possible in the short term rather than something sustainable in the long term), the prices will continue to increase while the quality of the products continues to decrease.
Even with all of these changes (or more likely, because of them in whole or in part) Transformers is still a profitable line of toys. Until that changes, they won't change their tactics.
Even with all of these changes (or more likely, because of them in whole or in part) Transformers is still a profitable line of toys. Until that changes, they won't change their tactics.
I'm not sure I'm seeing a "decline in quality"
There was a notable jump in quality going from PotP to WfC: Siege, and I feel like we've been mostly holding steady since.
There was a notable jump in quality going from PotP to WfC: Siege, and I feel like we've been mostly holding steady since.
Virtually every era of TFs have had people complaining about how much worse the then-current line was than every line before it. Clearly, we peaked with Diaclone, and then Transformers came along and ruined everything forever.
One minor caveat: you might want to be a little gentle handling those older figures. It's been my experience that those super high-quality G1 figures don't quite hold up as well to some of the abuse that these cheap, modern piles of junk are built to survive. Clearly, even Hasblow realizes that people are just buying their current offerings to abuse mercilessly while enshrining the older stuff.
One minor caveat: you might want to be a little gentle handling those older figures. It's been my experience that those super high-quality G1 figures don't quite hold up as well to some of the abuse that these cheap, modern piles of junk are built to survive. Clearly, even Hasblow realizes that people are just buying their current offerings to abuse mercilessly while enshrining the older stuff.
Agreed. I said what I said because I was afraid that I might be doing so (FunPub is historically a contentious topic), and I wanted to avoid that....