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Agent X

Kreon Bastard
Citizen
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LBD "Nytetrayn"

Broke the Matrix
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Council of Elders
Citizen
He was scarier to transform then my G1 Thunderclash.

He looks so cool but I'm never putting him back into jet mode 😅
Hmm... did Ghost Starscream ever transform into a jet?

(Possessions don't count. I just mean Starscream, alone, in his spectral form.)
 

The Phazer

Well-known member
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Hmm... did Ghost Starscream ever transform into a jet?

(Possessions don't count. I just mean Starscream, alone, in his spectral form.)

Are we including the appearance from Cheetor's dream sequence in S1 as Ghost Starscream (I mean he'd still be long dead...)? He's in jet form there.
 

Gizmoboy

Administrator
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I think @The Phazer is correct. His appearance in G1 was only in robot mode and most of his appearance in Beast Wars was also in Robot mode. That brief dream sequence is the only instance I can think of where he was in jet mode.
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
Was that Starscream as a ghost though? It looks like Starscream is flying through Cybertron in that scene and I just assumed Cheetor was dreaming about something he watched or read once about the Great War. I mean Cheetor's dream doesn't even take place in the same episode that ghost Starscream appears in ("The Web" vs "Possession")
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
Starscream was not a ghost in Cheetor's dream sequence in "The Web".

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(He looks a little fuzzy because everything in that dream sequence was fuzzy, to make it look more dreamlike and less like a flashback)

The first script for "Possession" (September 4, 1996) was actually first drafted only 14 days before "The Web" first premiered on television (September 18, 1996), so the idea of first using Starscream's ghost in Beast Wars would have come about long afterthat dream sequence was finalized.

When asked how Cheetor could have dreamed about Starscream when all knowledge of him had been made classified by the Maximal Elders, Bob Forward gave this answer:
What I want to know is, how could Cheeotor dream about Starscream in "The Web" and then never have heard of him because all the records of Starscream were sealed?

We like to explain it as "race memory." Cheetor dreamed of Starscream without even knowing precisely what he was dreaming of.

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LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
Starscream was not a ghost in Cheetor's dream sequence in "The Web".

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(He looks a little fuzzy because everything in that dream sequence was fuzzy, to make it look more dreamlike and less like a flashback)

The first script for "Possession" (September 4, 1996) was actually first drafted only 14 days before "The Web" first premiered on television (September 18, 1996), so the idea of first using Starscream's ghost in Beast Wars would have come about long afterthat dream sequence was finalized.

When asked how Cheetor could have dreamed about Starscream when all knowledge of him had been made classified by the Maximal Elders, Bob Forward gave this answer:
The script idea that became Possession involved the spirit of a G1 Autobot possessing a member of the BW cast. They tweaked the idea to Starscream because Starscream canonically had a history of possessing other characters and, more importantly, they had a character model ready to go from The Web.

So you're right. The idea to use Starscream as a ghost came up independently from his appearance in Cheetor's dream sequence.
 


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