Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread
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I mean... Thank you.
He knows about as much about running a country as he does about running a business. Which is to say, drive it into the ground, take a nice big paycheck, and stick someone else with the bill.
He is the embodiment of 1980s capitalism. Reap and take and leave nothing of value in your wake.
I still don't understand how he got his frikken TV show considering his business history. The man is genuinely horrible at running anything. I just don't understand.
I still don't understand how he got his frikken TV show considering his business history. The man is genuinely horrible at running anything. I just don't understand.
This isn't new by now (and I'm not a boomer), but I will continue to reject your "we must be as bad as those we oppose" rhetoric until the day I die.
So Wonko must be busy, but I've been corresponding with him here for 20 years and I think I know him well enough to answer that yes he definitely wishes Canada was a state.
I want to know more about the Russian and Chinese ships that are constantly surrounding them. What are they doing that for? These ships are watching the barren northern wasteland from the Arctic Ocean? Are there ships in North Dakota and Upstate New York? Canada has surprisingly little ocean front for Russia and China to surround. Alaska screens off the majority of the Pacific Ocean, the entire southern border is the United States, the north from Alaska to Hudson Bay is freezing and sparsely populated. I'm pretty doubtful that Russian and China are operating inside Hudson Bay. So is there a blockade of Vancouver and then Newfoundland, Quebec, and Nova Scotia? If so (of course not?) that'd already be alarming to the Coast Guard without a merger because those are in tight on us too.
Edit - I went and looked for answers and China and Russia HAVE been doing some stuff in the Bering Strait and Arctic Ocean. Canada has responded and so have the US Coast Guard because the Coast Guard are already patrolling around Canada anyway. But by no stretch is Canada ever being surrounded.
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Yeah, I don't have all the details, but I don't want the President of the United States getting publicly involved in prosecuting his predecessor. He didn't stop the Justice Department from working on it and as far as we know he didn't even slow them down. Garland didn't stop the prosecutions and as far as we know he didn't slow them down. Prosecuting an ex-President is heavy stuff and I think having an independent prosecutor was the right call. The system was working as it was supposed to. It wasn't Biden and Garland that screwed up. It has half the country.
I disagree with your wording on my stance here.
I do not think we need to be 'as bad as those we oppose'. But we must accept that the old tools simply don't work. We have to adapt and find what works in this new modern age. That does not automatically mean 'stoop to their level'. It means we need to find what works since we have a very clear understanding of what doesn't.
I agree with the independent prosecutor. I also agree Biden needed to be as hands off as possible. But the fact of the matter is that Trump committed criminal acts and encouraged others to do so as well. Had we an AG who was aggressive in pursuing those charges, even if it's through an independent counsel, we might not be where we are today. Instead Garland slow rolled it, hanging back and while, not hindering, certainly not helping.
This is unprecedented stuff we're dealing with. We needed this tackled head on. Not lazily allowed to unfold in its own time.
You can't agree with the independent prosecutor and also say Garland should have been out front aggressively pursuing it. The purpose of the independent prosecutor is to screen off real or percieved political persecution by the political appointee of Trump's political rival. Garland out front isn't as bad as Biden out front, but it is still not what I would want to see.
The system was all doing its job. They ran out of time and the public committed a major unforced error. There were two separate errors with the name Biden on them. One was Joe (really his staff I am sure) losing track of confidential documents in his possession when he was VP. The other was Hunter Biden lying on a gun application. Those errors made it a lot more difficult to articulate an argument that Trump was flagrantly irresponsible with confidential material and that he headed a family of criminal fraudsters. There wasn't equivalency, but we needed a qualitative difference, not quantitative.
The system was all doing its job. They ran out of time and the public committed a major unforced error. There were two separate errors with the name Biden on them. One was Joe (really his staff I am sure) losing track of confidential documents in his possession when he was VP. The other was Hunter Biden lying on a gun application. Those errors made it a lot more difficult to articulate an argument that Trump was flagrantly irresponsible with confidential material and that he headed a family of criminal fraudsters. There wasn't equivalency, but we needed a qualitative difference, not quantitative.
My country is doing stupid jive on the daily: but at least there aren't two mass shootings a day. No, I don't wish canada was a state, I want my politicians to pull their collective heads out of their collective asses and actually fix jive. The homelessness, medical access, education. We've got everything we need up here to be prosperous and respected: but they aren't in favour of self delusion and self enrichment.
Wouldn't mind a new french revolution in quebec, maybe breaking out the guillotine for a while; show the pequists what "seperation" actually means.
Edit: but you were right about me being busy. My cousin is in town with his new wife and her parents. Her parents are from spain, have never been to canada, and considering his parents live in ottawa; they figured they should come out, see the family and get some maple syrup.
History generally reveals that tearing the system down gives you a pretty good chance of ending up with something worse. We got LUCKY with the American Revolution. France didn't fair so well after theirs. It's one of the things I fear the most for the people of Syria right now, TBH. Generally speaking it's better to repair and refit than it is to tear down and rebuild.
I am not sure if we are saying the same thing. Where I said system, I was talking about the Justice Department and the courts. Neither of those is suppose to disallow someone from winning an election. But they were working on prosecuting his crimes and I think it was more important to be careful than fast.
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Hot new words for 2025: Anschluss, lebensraum and irredentism.
(Tell you what, I’m not happy about Orange Bastard making bizarre rants about annexing other NATO countries, including one sharing the British head of state.)
(I don’t think that he would treat the Inuit people of Greenland particularly nicely, given his white supremacism.)
(I don’t think that he would treat the Inuit people of Greenland particularly nicely, given his white supremacism.)