Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

Rhinox

Rhinox

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Axaday said:
You can't agree with the independent prosecutor and also say Garland should have been out front aggressively pursuing it. The purpose of the independent prosecutor is to screen off real or percieved political persecution by the political appointee of Trump's political rival. Garland out front isn't as bad as Biden out front, but it is still not what I would want to see.

The system was all doing its job. They ran out of time and the public committed a major unforced error. There were two separate errors with the name Biden on them. One was Joe (really his staff I am sure) losing track of confidential documents in his possession when he was VP. The other was Hunter Biden lying on a gun application. Those errors made it a lot more difficult to articulate an argument that Trump was flagrantly irresponsible with confidential material and that he headed a family of criminal fraudsters. There wasn't equivalency, but we needed a qualitative difference, not quantitative.
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You absolutely can.
As AG, he should have made the appointment a day 1 task. Not waiting until November. Before appointing, if he wanted to wait, he could have initiated an investigation and put resources and personnel into it. But they chose to wait and hope Trump went away on his own. That was a mistake.
Yes, a lot of this time comes down to Judge Cannon, who should have never been allowed to have the case. An invested AG could have worked to do something about that instead of just letting things "play out".

There are other ways the AGs office can support an investigation while remaining hands off.

As far as Hunter and Joe losing documents, those are nothingburgers. Excuses designed to pull attention from the criminal acts of Trump.
 
Pocket

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The really insane thing is that Trump faced charges for the 34 crimes he committed before taking office, but not the insurrection he incited on January 6, which should have been the easiest one to prosecute. We all saw it happen. It was basically the equivalent of watching somebody shoot someone else dead on live TV. There doesn't need to be a lengthy "investigation"; just drag his ass directly into court, give him a token chance to flail around trying to excuse himself, and then throw the book at him.

Ultimately, history will remember Biden the same way it remembers Neville Chamberlain, and good riddance. Assuming, of course, that we survive this mess long enough for there to be any history to remember any of it.
 
wonko the sane?

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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The question isn't whether someone will write it down. It already has been. The question is "will there be anyone capable of reading it?". And I don't mean survivors, I just mean literate.
 
Paladin

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Axaday said:
I am not sure if we are saying the same thing. Where I said system, I was talking about the Justice Department and the courts. Neither of those is suppose to disallow someone from winning an election. But they were working on prosecuting his crimes and I think it was more important to be careful than fast.
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When you openly incite an insurrection there should be SOMETHING in place that disallows you from winning another election. That should not be a difficult concept to grasp.
 

Axaday

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Paladin said:
When you openly incite an insurrection there should be SOMETHING in place that disallows you from winning another election. That should not be a difficult concept to grasp.
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What if you had to take a pop quiz on Government/Economics to get on the ballot. It wouldn't stop every insurrectionist, but it would've stopped this one.
 
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