Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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With any luck Johnson pisses off enough of the non-maga republicans that they stage a coup and remove him from his position. There comes a time when you really should put your country above your chances of being re-elected.
 

Axaday

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Just saw something that we all already knew enough to put together, but I hadn't and maybe you hadn't either.

I have been interacting with Facebook memes about how tariffs are going to bring manufacturing back and I keep telling people that we don't manufacture in China because it is 10% cheaper, so a 10% tariff increase isn't going to make American manufacturing the smart money. They'll just pay the tariff and pass it on.

But Elon Musk has this nebulous presence in the 47 administration and I hadn't thought about it in a while, but he says he'll be able to make 1 million Telsa Optimus in 2027. You never know on timeline with Elon, but they estimate a price tag of $20-30,000 on those which is much cheaper than I would have thought. It isn't a good enough deal to get one to mow my lawn, but these guys are going to be stocking groceries...before much longer. They can definitely do jobs in a factory that a traditional robot cannot because of their versatility. It really could be that there will suddenly not be labor anywhere in the world that can be bought as cheap as Optimus.
 

Anonymous X

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Just saw something that we all already knew enough to put together, but I hadn't and maybe you hadn't either.

I have been interacting with Facebook memes about how tariffs are going to bring manufacturing back and I keep telling people that we don't manufacture in China because it is 10% cheaper, so a 10% tariff increase isn't going to make American manufacturing the smart money. They'll just pay the tariff and pass it on.
Oh FFS, that's exactly like Brexit – "vote to leave the EU and they'll bring back manufacturing jobs!" (Yes, and how's that working out now there are trade frictions and tariffs and reams of extra paperwork to trade with Britain's largest export market?) It's the same scam, different country.
 

Dekafox

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Just saw something that we all already knew enough to put together, but I hadn't and maybe you hadn't either.

I have been interacting with Facebook memes about how tariffs are going to bring manufacturing back and I keep telling people that we don't manufacture in China because it is 10% cheaper, so a 10% tariff increase isn't going to make American manufacturing the smart money. They'll just pay the tariff and pass it on.

But Elon Musk has this nebulous presence in the 47 administration and I hadn't thought about it in a while, but he says he'll be able to make 1 million Telsa Optimus in 2027. You never know on timeline with Elon, but they estimate a price tag of $20-30,000 on those which is much cheaper than I would have thought. It isn't a good enough deal to get one to mow my lawn, but these guys are going to be stocking groceries...before much longer. They can definitely do jobs in a factory that a traditional robot cannot because of their versatility. It really could be that there will suddenly not be labor anywhere in the world that can be bought as cheap as Optimus.
Isn't that the "robot" where his demonstration was actually all people remotely operating them, and none of them were actually autonomous?
 


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